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Old 04-06-2017, 06:05 AM
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I was going to like your post but then I didn't have a Medium account.

So instead I ed your post on here.

Also 1 Gbps speed for $50/mo is quite good. But I wonder why their two options are 25 Mbps or 1 Gbps. Seems like a pretty huge jump with nothing in between...
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It's just a matter of explaining it, really, because there is virtually no reason that a regular consumer person wouldn't prefer something like this over buying internet service from a huge, unaccountable corporation that has nothing to lose and everything to gain by selling you out.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:06 PM
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I know the layout of this page is weird, but the content makes up for it.

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Old 06-18-2017, 08:19 PM
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There was a Black Mirror episode about this.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:38 PM
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Hey, look what happened:

GOP Data Firm Accidentally Leaks Personal Details of Nearly 200 Million American Voters

Original title text under the spoiler, because Gizmodo not good at computer:

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Old 06-19-2017, 07:43 PM
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LOL I broke FF.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:58 PM
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I know the layout of this page is weird
You had to go and make that self-referential, didn't you?

Now your spoiler text has messed up the forum page.

Or else Skynet has ...
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It didn't work in code or pre tags either, so I deleted it.
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Nice thread you've got here. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it. Also it would be all lisarea's fault.
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This belongs in the petty accomplishments thread. :rolleyes:
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Those are some good ideas, but it's kind of weird, like what they chose to include and what they left out.

So with sharing others' personal information, it's not usually like that. Sometimes it'll be in the form of "invitations" to things, but most of the time, it's contact scrapers, where people give apps access to their address books. Most people aren't really doing it on purpose. They're just not thinking.

And most data mining is also pretty opaque, but it doesn't usually depend on explicitly sharing information, or on someone hacking to get privacy data. It's mostly stuff like the contact scrapers and other little conveniences people opt into out of ignorance and/or apathy. Which I kind of wonder if the person who did that comic is leaving more relevant privacy measures out because they either don't know or don't care themselves.

Things like:

Check permissions on your devices and make sure you're not letting apps access your contacts, because that's how your friends' contact information is getting out, not by you, like, handing some guy their calling cards.

Turn off or block, ideally physically, any microphones or cameras when you're not using them. And don't use them without the express permission of anyone who might be recorded by them. This means turning off your "smart" assistant on your phone and covering your camera and microphone, and not taking pictures of people or god forbid posting them to social media without permission from everyone being recorded. Don't report other people's activities to Facebook or other social media, either.

That doesn't just apply to your phone and other mobile devices, either. Disconnect your "smart" TV from the internet, turn off/disconnect your Echo or other device, and secure any internet enabled security cameras you have on your property when you have guests, unless they're fully informed and consent to being recorded. Anything type of device you have that responds to voice or motion.

And just generally make some effort to understand the technologies your'e using. The really egregious privacy breaches get normalized because people adopt new consumer technologies without understanding or even just thinking about what those things are doing.
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Pretty sure Robot is talking about personal actions not corporate data mining. One is thoughtless breaching of boundaries due to (unearned) privileges and the other is ... thoughtless (by the "just doing my job" employees) breaching of boundaries due to (carelessly granted and hard to revoke) privileges. Completely different.
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I have no idea what distinction you're talking about. How is it not a personal action when you install an app that scrapes your contacts? Or when you put unsecured webcam footage of your friends online without their knowledge or permission?

The comic says "Don't share information you don't own without permission," but then doesn't explain how you probably already are doing that and how to stop. It provides a couple of options for basic security that mostly just protect you from having your own account data leaked, and but only obliquely mentions how you're probably freely handing over other people's personal information, no 'hacking' necessary.

How is not literally recording your visiting friends and transmitting those recordings over the internet less a "personal" action than using an insecure messaging app? How is giving someone's phone number to an individual who asks for it any qualitatively different from giving the exact same information to evite or one of those other places that collects, sells, and frequently loses that information in data breaches?

That's the data that's being mined and that's being used for predictive models used for redlining activities and exploitative marketing. (The comic does mention data mining.)

I am serious that I am not seeing what distinction you're making at all.
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Maybe a slight edit will make my point clearer.

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One is thoughtless breaching of boundaries due to privileges and the other is thoughtless breaching of boundaries due to privileges. Completely different.
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Ahh, OK. I get it. Sorry about that.

This shit drives me crazy, and halfcocked is a subset of crazy, see.
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