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Yes, it is OK. 10 29.41%
Is it OK not to punch a Nazi in the head? 9 26.47%
It's OK, but I prefer the genitals or solar plexus. 15 44.12%
Violence is never the answer, unless the question is some kind of Nazi shit. 16 47.06%
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Godaddy isn't a company known for it's 'sjw' leaning attitude, having them or conservative leaning credit/payment companies, look at a right wing group and say, 'hmmm' means there's a good chance they crossed the line in some interesting ways.
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I think the term "Nazi" is used far too loosely these days and has essentially lost all meaning it might once have carried.

So I'd say no, because in 2018, anyone is labeled "Nazi" now for simply not going along with the popular, or PC, mindset. Hear them out before you label them, rather than punching them.
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Can we at least bitch slap them, dear?

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I think the term "Nazi" is used far too loosely these days and has essentially lost all meaning it might once have carried.

So I'd say no, because in 2018, anyone is labeled "Nazi" now for simply not going along with the popular, or PC, mindset. Hear them out before you label them, rather than punching them.
While there are probably a few in the US that might fit the bill, I generally prefer "White Nationalist" as that covers most of the people who are pro-white racists in the US.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of white nationalists in the US right now - including our President - so it might sound a bit overused, even if it's not.
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I think the term "Nazi" is used far too loosely these days and has essentially lost all meaning it might once have carried.

So I'd say no, because in 2018, anyone is labeled "Nazi" now for simply not going along with the popular, or PC, mindset. Hear them out before you label them, rather than punching them.
I have some rubrics I use.

Do they have a problem with football players kneeling during the anthem? Well, I disagree, but they're not Nazis because of that.

Do they think that transgender people shouldn't be allowed to use the public bathroom that matches their gender? Well, that's not "PC" and I think it's bigoted, but it doesn't make them Nazis either.

Do they think that Jews are funding Central American migrant caravans in order to transform America? Yeah, sorry, but that sounds quite Nazi-ish, what with it being an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that has already inspired one mass murder of Jews.

As it turns out, theories like that are supported by prominent national Republicans. I'm sorry if it's uncomfortable to acknowledge that.
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That's pretty close to mine. I mean, I am acquainted with various types of Republicans and other conservatives, and I do not advocate punching them in the head. I don't even advocate punching people for being racist in most cases.

A lot of people do overuse the term Nazi. I mean, Rush Limbaugh and his fans were the prime examples. Godwin's law points up the inevitability of it, even. I certainly am not advocating punching "grammar Nazis" and "feminazis" in the head, or just anyone who has been described as a Nazi at some point, because that's pretty much everyone.

I advocate punching Richard Spencer in the head. I advocate punching someone in the head if they were actively espousing Nazi policies. I would probably only advocate gut punches for teenagers drawing swastikas to be edgy, though, and I do not advocate punching people for disagreeing with me about politics or regular, sub genocidal social policies.

For the most part, of course it's preferable to address things non-violently, but there is a point where people can no longer be reasoned with and where they pose a serious danger, and Nazism is that point. People should be as afraid to publicly advocate Nazi policies as they would be to publicly advocate raping babies. Because those things would get them punched in the head.

But the fact that Nazis are not currently a major political force doesn't mean there aren't plenty of Nazis and Nazi wannabes out there. And I think they need to be dealt with swiftly and violently as necessary as a last line of defense.
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Nip that shit in the bud. The real Nazis had no political opponents, only enemies to be destroyed. When they got the upper hand it was too late.
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Do they think that Jews are funding Central American migrant caravans in order to transform America? Yeah, sorry, but that sounds quite Nazi-ish, what with it being an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that has already inspired one mass murder of Jews.
This is part of my definition separating out Nazi's from just white nationalists. In their explanation do things that don't involve jews eventually snake around to some jewish person or jewish cabal as the cause, they might just be a nazi/neo-nazi. Since for some reason according to them jewish claws are always into everything, even things there's a chance they don't even know about existing.
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Yeah, the calling your political opposition "Nazis" ship sailed a very long time ago, sometimes to lulzy effect. Here's Lewis Black in 2010 talking about Glenn Beck and his Nazi Tourettes, which I believe shares numerous genetic markers with a condition known as Obama Derangement Syndrome.

:lol:@"It's Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, except there's just one degree and Kevin Bacon is Hitler."

But on the other hand, when the office of POTUS issues a Holocaust Remembrance Day statement that doesn't mention Jews at the fuck all, well, it gives a fella pause.
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That's pretty close to mine. I mean, I am acquainted with various types of Republicans and other conservatives, and I do not advocate punching them in the head. I don't even advocate punching people for being racist in most cases.

A lot of people do overuse the term Nazi. I mean, Rush Limbaugh and his fans were the prime examples. Godwin's law points up the inevitability of it, even. I certainly am not advocating punching "grammar Nazis" and "feminazis" in the head, or just anyone who has been described as a Nazi at some point, because that's pretty much everyone.

I advocate punching Richard Spencer in the head. I advocate punching someone in the head if they were actively espousing Nazi policies. I would probably only advocate gut punches for teenagers drawing swastikas to be edgy, though, and I do not advocate punching people for disagreeing with me about politics or regular, sub genocidal social policies.

For the most part, of course it's preferable to address things non-violently, but there is a point where people can no longer be reasoned with and where they pose a serious danger, and Nazism is that point. People should be as afraid to publicly advocate Nazi policies as they would be to publicly advocate raping babies. Because those things would get them punched in the head.

But the fact that Nazis are not currently a major political force doesn't mean there aren't plenty of Nazis and Nazi wannabes out there. And I think they need to be dealt with swiftly and violently as necessary as a last line of defense.

For me it’s not Nazis. It’s Klan and Jim Crow 2.0 or Nazis with a Southern Drawl.

I knew lots of racist dipshits growing up who don’t care about facts, or logic, or reason. They occasionally use such tools to argue but never in good faith. I think it is best to just provide censure. For many of these rightwing talking point spouting dipshits, an offer to take the conversation to a physical space is all they respect.

Some dipshits can only have their minds changed with a brick.

Since I’m a big, fat cro magnon looking asshole, they don’t want to play. A touch of fear and censure can at least teach them to keep their bigoted views to themself.
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if the main tenet of your political stance is "X people need to die because they exist" you may be a Nazi.
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From a thing upthread.

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Struggling conference invites Bannon. Mass exodus of attendees and other speakers.

Much Butthurt. Wow.
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In what organizers describe as the worst humanitarian offense since Auschwitz the head organizer teamed the conference up with "the International Congress on Love and Sex with Robots" Which Adrian Cheok is intimately familiar with having given a keynote about love and sex with robots in 2017, Cheok describes detractors as "fascist dogs," defends Bannon, and calls the strategist's opponents "same as Stalanist [sic] communists" who "want to send opponents to the Gulags." All other conference organizers appear to have left, leaving Adrian, Bannon and their robotic sex love conference all by their lonesome. From the look of it, Adrian took over the conference, made it about himself, and is now having a fit that no one else wants to play.
The worst offense in the history of the universe!In a tragic moment in the history of human civilization, and the trampling of academic free speech, an academic conference, ACE 2018, The 15th International Conference on Advances in Computer Entertainment Technology, which was to have been held at the University of Montana, USA has been forced to shut down by anti-free speech groups comprising of mainly academic researchers, who have been acting in a fascistic manner.


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That is unheard of here at :ff:!

This also seems like the right time for a callback of the "Don't Let This Happen To You" PSA that Kamilah posted last year.
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4th INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS ON LOVE AND SEX WITH ROBOTS – University of Montana, USA, 13-14 DEC 2018

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The paper aims to analyse the effects of the introduction of teledildos on our sexual lives according to postphenomenology and mediation theory. Digital technologies are getting very intimate by mediating even our sexual intercourse as in the case of teledildonics. Since according to postphenomenology and mediation theory, technologies are never neutral, the question of how we will be affected by their introduction becomes essential. In this work, we will show how they will allow human beings to have sexual intercourse with every object around by turning them into sexually interactive “quasi-others”, and how this change will affect many aspects of our lives. We will show it will affect how we perceive the world around, and how we are tempted by it. Moreover, we will highlight how even the meaning we give to sex will be shaped according to the new potentialities provided by this technology, and teledildos will touch even the values related to it.
Teledildonics. I had no idea this was a word. Also, having sexual intercourse with every object around, isn't that the true meaning of life?
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The now merged conference Bannon is said to be speaking in congruence with,
4th INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS ON LOVE AND SEX WITH ROBOTS – University of Montana, USA, 13-14 DEC 2018

Hot, sexy, topless robots!

Keynote Speaker: Matt McMullen, CEO of Realbotix He started Abyss Creations, the manufacturer of Realdoll, out of his garage in 1997. For the past 20 years he has been creating “The World’s Finest Love Dolls”, as well as undertaking multiple custom projects along the way

In some ways this is interesting, as Agalmatophilia, the love of statues, is a specific fetish that's been around since the ancient greek times. But also it's amazing what strange bedfellows Bannon is now making.
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