Go Back   Freethought Forum > The Public Baths > News, Politics & Law

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-19-2016, 10:32 PM
Iftikhar Iftikhar is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: XCIV
Default Muslim Academies

Muslim children not only need halal meat or Eid Holidays but they need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their development period also. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Legally, the state has an obligation to respect the rights of parents to ensure that 'education and teaching(of their children) is in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions.' The schools must satisfy the spiritual, moral, social, and cultural needs of Muslim pupils. State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not in a position to satisfy their needs. A good school is not just a knowledge factory or a conveyor belt for churning out exam passes - it is a community, a family. A community is held together by common values and principles.


Eton or Harrow or Manchester Grammar school are not suitable for Muslim children. Muslim children are being mis-educated and de-educated by such schools. The needs and demands of the Muslim children are different from native children. They produce economic slaves for the British society. Muslim children attending such schools are mis-fit for their own Community. Muslim children need Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. For higher studies and research, a Muslim teacher is not a priority. Muslim children must develop their cultural, spiritual and linguistic identities before they are exposed to outer world. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.


Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling. These are the reasons why majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Only less than 5% attend Muslim schools and more than 95% keep on attending state and church schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

Muslim schools provide an education in accordance with the Muslim beliefs and values, such as providing single-sex schooling after puberty. They are thus a response to the danger of absorption into the dominant culture. You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands.British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion.

According to David Lammy MP, there are still too many inequalities in the education system which prevents disadvantaged children from applying to study for a degree. British schooling is wholly responsible for the inequalities. A culture of low expectation and a lack of rigour holding these pupils back. Every child must reach his full potential regardless of his background. Justice Secretary Jack Straw MP said British society should be one which recognizes and celebrates differences. One in which we all have an opportunity to flourish, regardless of who we are or where we are from. British schooling has been trying to integrate and assimilate Muslim community through education in the name of integration. The Imams and Masajid have been playing their parts to keep Islamic faith alive, but that is not enough. British schooling does not promote global cohesion. It does not encourage dialogue and increases understanding.


You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meager resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying.

There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their
needs and demands.
IA
London School Of Islamics
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-19-2016, 11:43 PM
thedoc's Avatar
thedoc thedoc is offline
I'm Deplorable.
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: XMMCCCXCVI
Default Re: Muslim Academies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society,
And that is their mistake, if they don't want to integrate, they should not move to that country, but stay in a country that already holds the values and ideals they wish to embrace. Otherwise if you move to a country, adopt the values and customs of that country, and become a citizen of that country.
__________________
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don’t know anything about. Wayne Dyer
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Angakuk (11-20-2016)
  #3  
Old 11-20-2016, 12:53 AM
Stephen Maturin's Avatar
Stephen Maturin Stephen Maturin is offline
Flyover Hillbilly
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Juggalonia
Posts: MXDXLV
Default Re: Muslim Academies

There are no true Muslims in England. :nope:
__________________
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis D. Brandeis

"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko

"What the fuck is a German muffin?" ~ R. Swanson
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Angakuk (11-20-2016), Dragar (11-22-2016), JoeP (11-20-2016), Stormlight (11-21-2016), The Man (11-20-2016)
  #4  
Old 11-20-2016, 01:58 AM
Sauron's Avatar
Sauron Sauron is offline
Dark Lord, on the Dark Throne
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: VDCCLXXXVIII
Images: 157
Default Re: Muslim Academies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
Muslim children not only need halal meat or Eid Holidays but they need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their development period also.
Actually, what they need is a non-religious education to teach them tolerance and respect for human rights. Since they won't be learning that at home.


Quote:
Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling.
Whereas burning people alive, advanced bomb-making, assassination, genocide, religious persecution, persecution of women and sexual minorities, and oppression of science, business and a free press are part and parcel of Islamic schooling.
__________________
In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie...:sauron:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Angakuk (11-20-2016), But (11-20-2016), ceptimus (11-20-2016), Dragar (11-22-2016), JoeP (11-20-2016), Kyuss Apollo (11-20-2016), Stephen Maturin (11-20-2016), Stormlight (11-21-2016), The Man (11-20-2016)
  #5  
Old 11-20-2016, 03:50 PM
Iftikhar Iftikhar is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: XCIV
Default Re: Muslim Academies

West must to tolerate and respect those who are different. During colonial days, British did not follow local customs or culture. They didn't exactly "go native". They even forced the native Americans and native Australian to adopt all the evils of their culture and customs. They are still the underdogs of American and Australian societies. At least Australian Prime Minister apologised to the natives for their evil deeds. Brits living in Spain and France don't even bother learning the language of the new adopted country. Frankly suggesting that people don't want to become "British" they should move elsewhere is extremely irritating. Immigrants are in UK because they are needed, it was never an act of charity. Without migration, British economy and society will bleed to death. British culture and customs will undoubtedly change as it has for millennium due to immigration. I am not quite sure why Brits would be worried about that.

Of course Multiculturalism has failed. The Irish hate the English. The Scots hate the English & the Welsh hate The English. So what do you expect from people from other nations. Multiculturalism means different cultures living side by side, separately. We live in a multicultural world of mono-cultural countries. If only England becomes multicultural and other countries don't, then the result will be a less multicultural world. Right next to the Over ground Station, a peek inside the Railway Tavern pub will reveal white locals in the front, black locals in the back room. This segregation is self-enforced; both parties seem to prefer it that way. The sight of such retailed segregation is uncomfortable, and off-putting. It inevitably reminded me of the ”separate but equal” facilities of late-Jim Crow 60s America.

Many comments claim that the immigrants don't integrate. Aside from the little interactions mentioned, how can integration occur? Doesn't it need to be 2-way? How many of us are pleased to accept hospitality and gifts of exotic dishes offered by the 'immigrants' and yet don't reciprocate? Difficult to have a truly 'multicultural' society when the core belief of many of those who inhabit one of those cultures is that all the others should be eradicated.

CHRISTIANS should be encouraged to marry Muslims as a way of tackling Islamophobia, a senior peer claimed today. Lord Scott, a former Supreme Court Judge, cited his own family - in which two of his four children married Muslims - as an example of how interfaith families can thrive. The peer, who sits as a crossbencher in the Lords, made the comments during a debate on how to improve relations between the Muslim community and other faith groups in the UK. He said: "Of my two sons one has become a Muslim and of my two daughters one of those has become a Muslim, and I have 12 lovely grandchildren, seven of whom are little Muslims..."I do just wonder that if an improvement is needed between the faith groups, one way of promoting that might be to encourage interfaith marriages."

Whilst I agree that you have an immigration problem in this country, I don't think that this is your main problem. Your main problem is the disintegration of the family unit and the loveless binge drinking environment that your children are growing up in! NEVER in my life have I seen another country where people so seldom give their children a hug and a kiss like in this country and NEVER in my life have I seen another country where there are so many children from different fathers growing up in single parent households! Before you tackle the immigration problem (at least the immigrants LOVE their kids) you should first look at yourselves!

Why complain when it’s the British who first migrated into other lands enslaving those people? When it is a question on immigration, the feelings are so strong. I wonder why. Serves you right! Britain! When the British colonised the world, it was ok. But now when people from the former colonies and from other countries come to Britain, its not ok?

Look into history and then you can cry because what goes around comes around. Don't see why people have such a problem with mass immigration? It enriches our culture and boosts the economy! We have to stop looking at these people as immigrants and think of them as human beings. The immigrants are not to blame because they were invited and welcomed here by our successive government. We have quite large Spanish , French and Italian communities in Brighton and I believe it really enhances the place and adds to diversity of the City. Globalisation is here to stay. Britain colonised & some would say civilised half the world. It's called Karma. Not so long ago British people colonized Asia, living like kings while locals suffering to no end. At least, these migrants do not enslave the Britons, so stop whining please.
IA
London School Of Islamics
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-20-2016, 07:22 PM
Kyuss Apollo's Avatar
Kyuss Apollo Kyuss Apollo is offline
happy now, Mussolini?
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: location, location
Posts: VMCCCXI
Blog Entries: 7
Images: 17
Default Re: Muslim Academies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post

Look into history and then you can cry because what goes around comes around...It's called Karma.
Riiight. Because Karma is one of the Five Pillars of Buddhism Islam.
__________________
This week's track: MINUTEMEN - History Lesson Part II



Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Angakuk (11-21-2016), Ari (11-21-2016), Dragar (11-22-2016), livius drusus (11-20-2016), Sauron (11-21-2016), Sock Puppet (11-24-2016), SR71 (11-20-2016), Stormlight (11-21-2016), The Man (11-20-2016)
  #7  
Old 11-21-2016, 07:11 PM
Sauron's Avatar
Sauron Sauron is offline
Dark Lord, on the Dark Throne
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: VDCCLXXXVIII
Images: 157
Default Re: Muslim Academies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
West must to tolerate and respect those who are different.
Oh, really?

Quote:
Of course Multiculturalism has failed.
Come back when you can form an argument that doesn't contradict itself.
__________________
In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie...:sauron:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Angakuk (11-21-2016), Ari (11-21-2016), But (11-21-2016), JoeP (11-22-2016), Kyuss Apollo (11-22-2016), livius drusus (11-23-2016), Sock Puppet (11-24-2016), SR71 (11-22-2016), Stephen Maturin (11-21-2016), Stormlight (11-21-2016), The Man (11-21-2016)
  #8  
Old 11-21-2016, 09:55 PM
Angakuk's Avatar
Angakuk Angakuk is offline
NeoTillichian Hierophant & Partisan Hack
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Iowa
Gender: Male
Posts: MXCCCLXXXIII
Default Re: Muslim Academies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
West must to tolerate and respect those who are different.
Oh, really?

Quote:
Of course Multiculturalism has failed.
Come back when you can form an argument. that doesn't contradict itself.
:fixed:
__________________
Old Pain In The Ass says: I am on a mission from God to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable; to bring faith to the doubtful and doubt to the faithful. :shakebible:
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
But (11-22-2016), JoeP (11-22-2016), Kyuss Apollo (11-22-2016), livius drusus (11-23-2016), Sauron (11-21-2016), Sock Puppet (11-24-2016), SR71 (11-22-2016), Stephen Maturin (11-21-2016), Stormlight (11-22-2016), The Man (11-21-2016)
  #9  
Old 11-21-2016, 10:30 PM
Stephen Maturin's Avatar
Stephen Maturin Stephen Maturin is offline
Flyover Hillbilly
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Juggalonia
Posts: MXDXLV
Default Re: Muslim Academies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
West must to tolerate and respect those who are different.
Nonsense. No one is obliged to tolerate or respect burning people alive, advanced bomb-making, assassination, genocide, religious persecution, persecution of women and sexual minorities, or oppression of science, business and a free press. To the contrary, moral people consider themselves duty-bound to oppose such ghastliness. :yup:
__________________
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis D. Brandeis

"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko

"What the fuck is a German muffin?" ~ R. Swanson
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Angakuk (11-21-2016), But (11-22-2016), Dragar (11-22-2016), JoeP (11-22-2016), livius drusus (11-23-2016), Sock Puppet (11-24-2016), SR71 (11-22-2016), Stormlight (11-22-2016), The Man (11-21-2016)
Reply

  Freethought Forum > The Public Baths > News, Politics & Law


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Page generated in 0.64786 seconds with 15 queries