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There is also the fact that they are more likely to identify as Chinese, or Korean or whatever rather than by the continent they're from. They're not Murricans, after all.
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Why is using "oriental" now considered offensive?
One time, a Chinese person asked me this question really loudly in the very quiet pho place where there are never any other gwai los.
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Old 07-02-2016, 08:24 PM
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Oriental is just Spanish for Eastern. ¿Por qué es esto un problema?
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Bloody foreigners, coming here and taking our competition wins.

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Cultural appropriation!
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It's a bit more defined. 'Oriental' can refer to anyone from Egypt, to Iran, to India, to China, to Japan, to the Philippines, etc. Asian has less historical connotation, not being used nearly as much as a derogatory, or in a colonial 'exotic' sense. It's still not as good as just 'country of origin' but isn't as bad as Oriental.
The non-specificity of "Asian" has annoyed me for some time, and it differs in connotation from place to place. Here in NZ people mostly use the term for eastern Asian ancestry, i.e. China, Korea, Japan. When I arrived in Britain it took me a while to realise that people were often referring to Indian sub-continent ancestry with the term.
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Yeah, I noticed that too. When the British say Asian they mean almost exclusively Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan.
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Oriental is just Spanish for Eastern. ¿Por qué es esto un problema?
Negro is Spanish for black but it has taken on some baggage in English, same there.
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Most of these terms just start out as descriptive but become offensive over time - and then we need new ones. Even the generic word foreigner is now perceived as offensive by some, so we will soon need a different word for that.
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Oriental is just Spanish for Eastern. ¿Por qué es esto un problema?
Negro is Spanish for black but it has taken on some baggage in English, same there.
Just as "trump" is an English word for fart, but has now taken on unpleasant connotations due to American current affairs.
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A friend I was going to be staying with in England warned me ahead of time about Asian meaning strictly Indian or Pakistani there. He said Oriental was the preferred term for Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc. He felt it necessary to warn me because of my habit of watching Japanese and Hong Kong films and talking about ogling 'cute Asian boys'. He also made a point of taking me to their local Chinese restaurant with the cute waiter. He is an awesome friend.
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Turkey coup: military attempt to seize power from Erdogan as low flying jets and gunfire heard in Ankara and bridges across Bosphorus in Istanbul closed

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Now Erdogan is calling for his followers to take to the streets. This could get very far out of hand that way.
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So what does NATO do when there's a coup in a member state?

edit - Asked and answered: A brief history of coups in NATO nations | Public Radio International

Apparently not much
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When Portugal joined there was a military government in place. The Carnation Revolution as the Portuguese call it, restored democracy. Or brought democracy to Portugal, not sure if they ever had it before.
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And here's Britain's new foreign minister from two months ago.

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Where's SOLZHENITSOF when we need him? :look:
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Yeah, I noticed that too. When the British say Asian they mean almost exclusively Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan.
That's really interesting, I did not know that.

I only use 'Asian' as a substitute for Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Vietnamese, etc. and only when I don't know the specific origin or I mean to generalize; Like I refer to pho as "Vietnamese food" but "I love Asian food". And although I do love Indian food (which is a generalization itself, I realize) I wouldn't even think of it as "Asian food".
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I don't think they call Indian food Asian food though. I've never heard that.
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Maine voters will be voting on IVR. Ranked Choice Voting: Maine Initiative Would Change Ballots

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IRV doesn't actually make third-parties viable, and it results in a higher percentage of spoiled ballots.

But I guess if Green Party types think it will help them, go right ahead. They will get a higher percentage of the vote, but no higher chance of winning. It's mostly an improvement over plurality voting though.

(Approval voting is a better system - you can't spoil your ballot, and third-parties have a greater chance of being able to win, rather than merely no longer playing spoiler to similar parties.)
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