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04-22-2010, 11:55 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
Cool though.
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04-23-2010, 12:02 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
Angkor was the largest city in the ancient world.
It's old urban decay.
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04-23-2010, 12:49 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
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Angkor was the largest city in the ancient world.
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By what standard of measurement? Because as far as I know, its population, surface area and amount of construction don't even come close to ancient Rome, Constantinople or medieval Baghdad, just to name a few. It wasn't even a city in the normal sense of the word. It's a temple and administration complex; there are no regular homes, no commercial structures.
That's not what urban decay means. It refers to post-industrial cities.
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04-23-2010, 01:03 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
I wonder what Roger Ebert would say about this.
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04-23-2010, 01:31 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
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By what standard of measurement? Because as far as I know, its population, surface area and amount of construction don't even come close to ancient Rome, Constantinople or medieval Baghdad, just to name a few. It wasn't even a city in the normal sense of the word. It's a temple and administration complex; there are no regular homes, no commercial structures.
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All of those. The Khmer built their homes etc. out of wood because they believed only religious structures should be made of stone.
It's been fairly recent since it was discovered that Angkor was so large. See the National Geographic documentary Secrets of Angkor.
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That's not what urban decay means. It refers to post-industrial cities.
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Oh, well, I was mistaken. Thank you for the correction.
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04-23-2010, 03:22 AM
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rude, crude, lewd, and unsophisticated
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Re: Urban Decay
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Originally Posted by livius drusus
By what standard of measurement? Because as far as I know, its population, surface area and amount of construction don't even come close to ancient Rome, Constantinople or medieval Baghdad, just to name a few. It wasn't even a city in the normal sense of the word. It's a temple and administration complex; there are no regular homes, no commercial structures.
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All of those. The Khmer built their homes etc. out of wood because they believed only religious structures should be made of stone.
It's been fairly recent since it was discovered that Angkor was so large. See the National Geographic documentary Secrets of Angkor.
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Originally Posted by livius drusus
That's not what urban decay means. It refers to post-industrial cities.
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Oh, well, I was mistaken. Thank you for the correction.
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I don't think you were mistaken at all, Kashmir.
This thread is entitled "Urban Decay"... What you brought to everybody's attention is indeed "urban decay", it's just not "industrial urban decay".
But, then, the thread title doesn't say that, does it?
Besides, when attempting to discredit your point, 54 listed two ancient cities, Rome and Istanbul, and a mediveal city, Baghdad. None of those is industrial decay, so how are they germane to this particular discussion if it's about "industrial" decay? I would also note that those locations, in comparison to Angkor, are arid or semi-arid environments. Ankgor has, and had, lush jungle vegetation which overwhelmed the entire site; even the stone structures were buried due to duff buildup and vegetive overgrowth over centuries.
I guess Mohenjo-daro is not 'urban decay', either.
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04-23-2010, 06:37 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
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Besides, when attempting to discredit your point, 54 listed two ancient cities, Rome and Istanbul, and a mediveal city, Baghdad. None of those is industrial decay, so how are they germane to this particular discussion if it's about "industrial" decay?
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That was addressed to my claim that Angkor was the largest city in the ancient world.
Urban decay, ancient ruins, ancient urban decay, autoerotic asphyxiation... it's not worth fighting over.
Angkor is just cool.
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04-25-2010, 04:04 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
There are parasites that are not really parasites in that the are beneficial to the host. And there are parasite that kill the host. Man is the latter.
Everywhere man has been, the planet is left as if lke scabies on a dog.
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04-25-2010, 04:12 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
Oh hey I dug that speech in the Matrix too.
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04-26-2010, 09:47 PM
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A fellow sophisticate
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Re: Urban Decay
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Angkor was the largest city in the ancient world.
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By what standard of measurement? Because as far as I know, its population, surface area and amount of construction don't even come close to ancient Rome, Constantinople or medieval Baghdad, just to name a few. It wasn't even a city in the normal sense of the word. It's a temple and administration complex; there are no regular homes, no commercial structures.
That's not what urban decay means. It refers to post-industrial cities.
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You have to admit, whatever industry Angkor had is definitely post.
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05-05-2010, 02:19 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
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Oh hey I dug that speech in the Matrix too.
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The enemy of nature is thought.
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05-05-2010, 02:21 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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05-05-2010, 02:56 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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When they have taken away your enemie they'll come after you.
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05-05-2010, 03:34 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
I shall fend them off with sheer force of will. Also a moat.
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05-05-2010, 04:00 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
A moat or a wall or a fence or a nuclear weapon arsenal are deficient protection when all enemies are imagined.
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05-05-2010, 04:02 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
Oh well if they're imagined, then of course my force of will alone will suffice.
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05-05-2010, 04:41 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
Yes.
The end of fear.
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05-05-2010, 04:43 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
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05-05-2010, 04:41 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
ITT postmodern arabesque.
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05-05-2010, 04:46 PM
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Just keep m'nose clean, egg, chips & beans, I'm always full of steam
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Re: Urban Decay
Whoa.
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05-05-2010, 05:03 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
Unexpected awesome is unexpectedly awesome, amirite?
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05-05-2010, 06:20 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
I wonder if a toke of smoke would make capslockf9 seem a sensible bloke.
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05-05-2010, 06:23 PM
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Re: Urban Decay
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The enemy of nature is thought.
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Thought is natural, at least in most of us . . .
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05-06-2010, 12:50 AM
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Re: Urban Decay
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The enemy of nature is thought.
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Thought is natural, at least in most of us . . .
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I say-
the brain as part of the nervous system activity that is needed for protection of teh organism. It is needed to keep the organism safe from harm. Which is all fine and nececassary. This mode or survival is instinctual. Instinsts as in all the animals in the world even the most minutest earthworms brain will move it to a better survival.
All that is not thought.
Instincts are not a thought process. A beetle's instincts are not thought. and Other beetles are never it's enemiies.
And as for the thing called thought.
Thought is an anomalie in nature.
Any idea that manifest in man is oppostional to nature. A dam, a road, a fence, a pesticide, a oil spill, a nuclear bomb are not nature.
Urban decay is nature fighting back.
But is unhindered thought will destroy the universe.
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