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Yeah, I remembered that yesterday too after a while.

I would argue that being a violent criminal is more significant than playing basketball, so yeah, that reminder is perfectly relevant and fair game for a journalist. It's not like people were enraged that the media didn't focus on Charles Manson's music career when he died.

Also, when that happened, there were assholes out protesting at the courthouse. Including some stellar parent who brought their tween daughter there with the word "Innocent" written on her face. Which I know because her picture and name were on the front page of the paper the next day.

So I'm not surprised to see people acting like that now, either. They're fucked all the way up.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:44 AM
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The reasoning the Post gave was she posted her incoming hate mail complete with names.

You know, against company policy to name the people sending you rape and death threats. Company policy is important. Or something.
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I only barely remembered that Kobe was from the Philadelphia area. At one time being the youngest to be brought into the NBA. I had completely forgotten about his rape.

If you're dumb enough to make threats to a journalist of all people using your in real IRL life name, you deserve to be outed like that. File it under the Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prizes folder(s). As an entity, I guess I can understand why they'd have some kind of policy or some-such. But they can pound sand if internet morons want to play tough guy and put my life and security in jeopardy.
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Old 01-29-2020, 07:07 AM
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Guardian series on the costs of being a woman.

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Torille!
Possibly the most niche reference this board has ever seen.
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I take it that's not the Finnish spelling of the Slovenian band Torul.
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Not as far as I know.
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Random thought: Transphobia is rooted in the notion that women are property. Property can't opt out and it's nonsense to want to be property when you're not.
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I'm tempted to generalise that to: all obsession with stereotypical gender roles is rooted in the notion that women (as defined by stereotypical gender roles) are inferior (as defined by the patriarchy) and it's nonsense to want to be inferior ...

but as a stereotypically gendered patriarch that would be mansplaining so I won't.
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Random thought: Transphobia is rooted in the notion that women are property. Property can't opt out and it's nonsense to want to be property when you're not.
Can you explain that to me?
First, what is "transphobia"?
If it means not wanting trans people to have the right to employment, housing, fair treatment in public accommodations without discrimination (same as other groups who suffer discrimination based on group characteristics), then I don't know of a single person who is transphobic.

Second, what in transgender theory says that "women are property"?
What do you mean, "property can't opt out," and it's "nonsense to want to be property when you're not"? I don't think any transgender people or advocates want transgender people to be property. I also don't think anyone who is not trans wants anyone, trans or not, to be property.

Feminism is the notion that women are people, not property, and that women do, indeed "opt out" of being property. It's been a long, hard fight, and it's not won yet. Women can't "opt out" of being women, that I know of. That comes with a certain amount of baggage, as there are still large strands of culture that treat women as either property or, slightly more enlightenedly, as second class, at best. But the struggle for women's rights is to put women on an equal footing with men, as human beings endowed with dignity and fair treatment. There have been a great number of improvements over the last decades.
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Random thought: Transphobia is rooted in the notion that women are property. Property can't opt out and it's nonsense to want to be property when you're not.
Can you explain that to me?
First, what is "transphobia"?
If it means not wanting trans people to have the right to employment, housing, fair treatment in public accommodations without discrimination (same as other groups who suffer discrimination based on group characteristics),
As I understand it, all you mentioned there and in addition, dismissal of the existence of trans people, or violence against trans people.

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Second, what in transgender theory says that "women are property"?
What do you mean, "property can't opt out," and it's "nonsense to want to be property when you're not"? I don't think any transgender people or advocates want transgender people to be property. I also don't think anyone who is not trans wants anyone, trans or not, to be property.
Maybe I was unclear, I'm trying to say that transphobes, and I think I see where my problem lies. You get to it here:

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Feminism is the notion that women are people, not property, and that women do, indeed "opt out" of being property. It's been a long, hard fight, and it's not won yet. Women can't "opt out" of being women, that I know of. That comes with a certain amount of baggage, as there are still large strands of culture that treat women as either property or, slightly more enlightenedly, as second class, at best. But the struggle for women's rights is to put women on an equal footing with men, as human beings endowed with dignity and fair treatment. There have been a great number of improvements over the last decades.
Ok, I see this as: regarding women as property can be -a- root of transphobia but definitely isn't the only one. There are feminists who are also transphobes and I've seen some real knock down and drag out arguments about whether transwomen even exist or are merely a form of fetishist trying to peep on women in the bathroom. I'm sure they do not regard themselves as property, though.

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If you haven't heard about or seen this advert, please have a quick watch and about the 1:45 mark, try to guess what they're selling. In fact, try to guess all the way through. It's revealed at the end. Honestly, if you can guess this you're a witch or something.

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If you haven't watched slim's video and tried to guess, don't click the spolier.

More on the product:
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I seen't a post somewhere on the internet about it. Saw the people razzing at it. I would never ever in a million years have guessed that would be a commercial for it. I laughed hard enough that it literally could have been a parody indistinguishable from the reality in which we are living. (In that case, is it really parody anymore?)
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What's with that one girl who implies that only now are women doing anything other than being in the kitchen and looking pretty on the stage? I can see how a child might think that, but it is then the job of grownups to correct the misconceptions.

Unless, of course, they have some motivation not to.
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