Okay. I liked this week's and last's. Today is The Day parts 1 & 2.
Wrapped up the Get-The-Metal-Away-From-Connor-Faction's gambit. I liked seeing Chad Coleman as submarine Captain Queeg ("Cutty" the ex-con boxing coach from The Wire). I liked Jesse's story and how they put it together. Her waiting and re-adjusting the lamp in the hotel was a nice touch.
The storyline on the sub was good, the liquid metal there scary.
I liked that John went to see his murdered girlfriend's body. I especially liked that John shows here some of the intelligence and insight he will need to be a leader and to outmaneuver the machines before and after Judgment Day.
John Henry/ Agent Ellis / Ms.Weaver seem to be building slowly. I'm still a little unclear on what Ellis' not being more suspicious of the whole set-up.
I'm not sure how many more episodes are slated for this season, but I am still digging it.
I'm digging it, too. I could do with more Sarah Connor and less John, Riley, Derek, Cameron, Jesse ... but I am loving Weaver and Ellison and John Henry enough to make up for it. Anyway, I think the Jesse/Riley story is pretty much wrapped up, so I hope we'll move forward from here. And yeah, liquid metal on a sub? Fucking feared.
I'm glad that whole sub plot is done with. I liked the wrap up of it but not the many episodes long story to get to it. I'm not sure of what the meaning of it is with respect to the totality of the story (j-day, the resistance, etc).
Despite the name of the show being Sarah Connor Chronicles, I'm pleased they're not relying on one character to carry everything. That said I won't be too bothered by more Lena Headey. And I am also hopeful that they can now get down to telling us what Weaver is up to, whose side she is on, how Agent Ellis figures into it and when John Henry realizes he can control the world.
Okay. I am a little floored by the latest episode.
Brian Austin Green dead on the floor in the first ten minutes? Whoa. Very sudden, and no prolonged death scene, just a soldier killed in passing.
I'm mixed on this. I thought his character added a lot to this season, and I think he's a good actor, so seeing him offed hurts. But I also like that it acknowledges that they can't really face terminators head-on, when they are exposed their likelihood of dying is high. And I respect the sudden and what-bam-he's gone aspect of it- there's no time to linger, and the shock is not yet dealt with, and killing off characters makes it more believable.
Interesting twists- "Your mom was going to ditch you" from Cameron to John, and Ms. Weaver to John Henry- "maybe in the story you're God."
And what the hell were they doing releasing the girl in a theater where they didn't have anyone watching the outside and alternate routes out or decide not being there at all would be a better position? All three are inside? Bad moves.
The Cyberdyne AI running some of those Terminators, Ms. Weaver and John Henry as another faction? half of the whole that becomes SkyNet? I am intrigued.
I liked this last episode even though I was frustrated by bits and look forward to the season finale next week.
I thought the last two episodes were pretty kick ass all things told. Now that they've dropped the anchors of Jesse and Riley it's full steam ahead.
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Okay. I am a little floored by the latest episode.
Brian Austin Green dead on the floor in the first ten minutes? Whoa. Very sudden, and no prolonged death scene, just a soldier killed in passing.
I'm mixed on this. I thought his character added a lot to this season, and I think he's a good actor, so seeing him offed hurts. But I also like that it acknowledges that they can't really face terminators head-on, when they are exposed their likelihood of dying is high. And I respect the sudden and what-bam-he's gone aspect of it- there's no time to linger, and the shock is not yet dealt with, and killing off characters makes it more believable.
Interesting twists- "Your mom was going to ditch you" from Cameron to John, and Ms. Weaver to John Henry- "maybe in the story you're God."
And what the hell were they doing releasing the girl in a theater where they didn't have anyone watching the outside and alternate routes out or decide not being there at all would be a better position? All three are inside? Bad moves.
The Cyberdyne AI running some of those Terminators, Ms. Weaver and John Henry as another faction? half of the whole that becomes SkyNet? I am intrigued.
I liked this last episode even though I was frustrated by bits and look forward to the season finale next week.
Yeah, holy crap! Who is going to survive this season! I was pretty set back by Charlie's death and then they almost open with BAG getting shot in the head! Poor John. Everybody dies for him.
I knew the cop was working on something I just didn't expect it to happen that same episode. Credit to Sarah, though. She did what she had to do for John to escape. John is already working on a plan for something. Will he try to destroy Zeira or will he go for his mom?
And now we at least have an inkling as to what Weaver is working towards. It may not be the thrust of her plan, but keeping li'l Weaver alive is one of her ancillary goals. (She may be a cold calculating killer but she's not without some heart.)
And Bob bless John Henry! He was so stressing his circuits to save Savannah.
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I love Savannah, soulless little ginger kid that she is. Her little saddle shoes and her adorable Cindy Brady lisp and her girraffe.
"You taught me to tie my THOES!"
This could just be The Savannah Show and I'd be thrilled.
OMG, what up with that ending? On the one had I was like, "AWESOME!" and on the other hand I was like, "What the fuck just happened?!"
Okay so I sort of think that the reason nobody in the future knows who John Connor is that he got pulled out of history and never led the resistance. I thought that was the obvious conclusion, but I'm hearing so many other decent theories that I guess it could be any one of them.
The other thing that is killing me is that Derek said that Kyle is "back". Back from where? Just any old mission? Or, my theory, that he sort of *popped* back into existence in time because since John never led the resistance, then Kyle never went back in time and got killed. But my theory is no good for several reasons. Not just because if Kyle never went back and fathered him then John shouldn't exist in any time, but also because that's not how time travel has worked so far in this show, and this show has been blessedly internally consistent in regards to how it all works.
So, yeah, like I said. Awesome. And WTF.
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Why does Weaver have to time travel naked? Her clothes are made out of the same shit as her skin. SO STUPID!
Weaver's goal here is to join the human resistance to bring down the cyberdyne aspect of skynet?
Sooooo many questions. The T-1000 liquid metals are massively more advanced- are they then capable of making independent decisions and changing allegiance and purpose? Are they a cohesive force, or does each make a decision? It almost seems like the phrase "Will you join us" was built in by the programmer to allow the T-1000 to make its own decisions.
Which brings us to the casual reference to Dyson's missing son...
I don't know about multiple time-lines, I think more it is interwoven on itself. The story of John Connor I remember was the humans being scattered and disorganized, and then John Connor coming out of nowhere and creating a cohesive resistance capable of successful guerilla warfare.*
I like the leap forward, though I don't know where that leaves Sarah Connor and Ellison, and what they do with Cameron's shell or Savannah.
BAG is back, people! Good. And we get Summer Glau as Allison from Palmdale! That sounds like some interesting fun!
Weaver makes a strange bedfellow- she definitely doesn't have qualms about offing humans in large numbers.
So I thought the clandestine Cohiba facility was hers at first, and that she had gone in and killed the workers because she thought they were compromised by the transmission by the foreman regarding a shipment of the coltan ore- but I guess I had that wrong- the factory was run by cyberdyne?
Who built the time machines?
What was Sarah's justification for staying in the past?
I am very much looking forward to season 3.
Also great to see the tough woman make a cameo, more great lines in this one.
As to the naked Weaver in the time portal- maybe it gives her an added moment that enemies waiting on the other side of the time portal may hesitate? Though I'm not sure what a T-1000 couldn't run away from or defend against in most cases. Of course the idea that living flesh is the key to allowing travel through the portal doesn't explain the T-1000 travel scenario anyway.
*Though as skynet after Judgement Day, why not build some mustard gas factories, wipe out the resistance/ humanity that way? Though I guess the underlying mission statement of skynet is not clearly articulated beyond its precipitating civilization collapse and warring on humans.
They can't end it there. They can't. I mean, they could, certainly. But then I would be forced to lead a campaign of destruction against them and their houses the likes of which the pansy ass Browncoats would be shamed by.
I have no competing theories at this point. I'm just totally OMG WTF. Wheels within wheels, man, turtles all the way up now.
They can't end it there. They can't. I mean, they could, certainly. But then I would be forced to lead a campaign of destruction against them and their houses the likes of which the pansy ass Browncoats would be shamed by.
I have no competing theories at this point. I'm just totally OMG WTF. Wheels within wheels, man, turtles all the way up now.
It's almost like the writers did it on purpose to guarantee another season.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles was canceled.
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We were offered a tour of the studio and was asked is there anything in particular we would like to see. Of course I didn’t pass up this opportunity and said “Yeah, I would like to see the TSCC set”. He looked at me kind of funny and I almost fell over when he smiled and said “It’s all gone sweety, they tore it down a couple weeks ago, (paused a second then said) everything“
I asked “What do you mean, gone, as in Hasta-la-vista gone?” he replied in a very bad Arnold impression “they’ll not be back” He said everyone around there had known that for a few weeks already. It was fairly common knowledge at WB.
I have to say I found his explanation totally believable. There is no way FOX is going to come out and say it’s cancelled during the season end run, especially when they are trying to squeeze out every viewer they can. If they did, it would be a 100% DVR viewership from that point on!
The ratings numbers are in the toilet and that’s including the previous week “The Last Voyage of the Jimmy Carter” which was a superb episode but had 2-3 million viewers depending on which angle you analize the ratings and who you get them from. It’s not that TSCC doesn’t have the viewers. If you added in DVR, TiVO, and Hulu then the true viewership approaches an estimated 7 to 10 million viewers which is rockin’ for a new series. The problem is the only thing that counts is the broadcast on Friday nights. Nothing else earns advertising revenue. The bottom line IS the bottom line.
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Let’s be honest, we all know that with DVR and TiVo we just zip right past those annoying commercials, I know I do and so do you. You can’t fast forward the ads on Hulu, but the ad density of Hulu is so low, it isn’t even counted, leaving only the Fox Friday Night Kiss of Death Time Slot to sustain it.
To me this was completely stupid on FOX’ part as this is a young person’s show and like most younger people I am NEVER home on Friday Evening. Since moving to Fridays, I have DVR ‘ed every single episode. Nielsen knows the DVR numbers, but doesn’t count them for the previous reasons.
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Earlier in the season, Executive Producer Josh Freidman said on the Offical FOX TSCC blog that Season Two would be shot to close up the season’s story line ONLY, not as a series finale, no matter what because there wasn’t enough time to end it right. Even if he knew they weren’t coming back at some point before the season two filming ended.
One thing that most are forgetting is that stuios DO NOT produce TV Shows to entertain. Your Enetertainment isn’t even a small part of the equation, you spending habits and advertising dollars are! It is all about the money and the bottom line.
The high DVR playbacks do not mean a thing as they do not generate ad revenue. FOX cares only about the money and the money in this business is INSANE in both terms of profit and the potential to lose.
This was very decent scripted TV, I liked the first two seasons, and I'll miss this show. Now there's all of two or three shows I'll actually tune in to broadcast television to watch.
Thank you FOX for running the show for two seasons.
Fuck you FOX for canceling another show I liked that you put in a horrible time slot then jacked to another even worse time slot then abandoned because it didn't generate the viewership and you fucks haven't figured out how to adequately (read, insanely) monetize the internet and dvr aspects, so you pulled the plug. I can't say I'm surprised, since it has been the FOX modus operandi for pretty much every show you fucks ran that I liked.
Oh, maybe they can put in another night of American Idol! Oh OH! Or a new reality show where they put people together and then watch them tear each other apart!
I swore after Firefly FOX was off the list. Then there was Sarah Connor and Dollhouse. Once again, my future with FOX rests on the cancellation of a Joss Whedon show.
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And I am also hopeful that they can now get down to telling us what Weaver is up to, whose side she is on, how Agent Ellis figures into it and when John Henry realizes he can control the world.
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