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12-03-2015, 10:40 AM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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True Believer
be·lieve.
[bəˈlēv]
VERB
1.accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of:
"the superintendent believed Lancaster's story" ·
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synonyms: be convinced by · trust · have confidence in ·
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2.hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose:
"I believe we've already met" ·
[more]
synonyms: think · be of the opinion that · have an idea that ·
[more]
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12-03-2015, 10:43 AM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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Re: True Believer
From Wikipedia...
The True Believer: Thoughts On The Nature Of Mass Movements is a 1951 social psychology book by American writer Eric Hoffer that discusses the psychological causes of fanaticism.
The book analyzes and attempts to explain the motives of the various types of personalities that give rise to mass movements; why and how mass movements start, progress and end; and the similarities between them, whether religious, political, radical or reactionary. Hoffer argues that even when their stated goals or values differ mass movements are interchangeable, that adherents will often flip from one movement to another, and that the motivations for mass movements are interchangeable. Thus, religious, nationalist and social movements, whether radical or reactionary, tend to attract the same type of followers, behave in the same way and use the same tactics and rhetorical tools. As examples, the book often refers to Communism, Fascism, National Socialism, Christianity, Protestantism, and Islam.
The first and best-known of Hoffer's books, The True Believer has been published in 23 editions between 1951 and 2002.
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Last edited by bobsavegan; 12-03-2015 at 03:05 PM.
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12-03-2015, 02:51 PM
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Flyover Hillbilly
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Re: True Believer
Look, dumbass, you can't go around posting other people's stuff as if it were your own. That makes you a thief in addition to all your other charming qualities.
Had you not been a self-absorbed asshole, you might have taken a few seconds to read the terms under which people may use stuff from Wikipedia, which include attribution. But you are a self-absorbed asshole, so you didn't do that.
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12-03-2015, 03:07 PM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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Re: True Believer
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Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin
Look, dumbass, you can't go around posting other people's stuff as if it were your own. That makes you a thief in addition to all your other charming qualities.
Had you not been a self-absorbed asshole, you might have taken a few seconds to read the terms under which people may use stuff from Wikipedia, which include attribution. But you are a self-absorbed asshole, so you didn't do that.
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No need to call me names. Just point out my error and I will correct it.
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12-03-2015, 06:55 PM
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Flyover Hillbilly
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Re: True Believer
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Originally Posted by bobsavegan
No need to call me names.
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I know. I'm doing it as a public service, not from necessity.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsavegan
Just point out my error and I will correct it.
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"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis D. Brandeis
"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko
"What the fuck is a German muffin?" ~ R. Swanson
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12-03-2015, 07:45 PM
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Porn papers, surrealistic artifacts, kitchen smells, defecated food and sprayed perfume cocktail.
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Re: True Believer
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsavegan
be·lieve.
[bəˈlēv]
VERB
1.accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of:
"the superintendent believed Lancaster's story" ·
[more]
synonyms: be convinced by · trust · have confidence in ·
[more]
2.hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose:
"I believe we've already met" ·
[more]
synonyms: think · be of the opinion that · have an idea that ·
[more]
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Thanks, dear, for telling us what the word "believe" means, and even providing a helpful pronunciation guide. I [bəˈlēv] this has been an edifying experience for us all.
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12-03-2015, 07:59 PM
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Flyover Hillbilly
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Re: True Believer
I wonder if he knows that definition from personal experience or got it from some book.
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"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis D. Brandeis
"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko
"What the fuck is a German muffin?" ~ R. Swanson
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12-03-2015, 08:06 PM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: True Believer
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Originally Posted by bobsavegan
Just point out my error and I will correct it.
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The error, - Posting on a public forum.
To correct it, - Don't post on a public forum, or anywhere else.
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12-03-2015, 08:36 PM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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Re: True Believer
You ought to be thankful.
If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.
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12-03-2015, 08:58 PM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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Re: True Believer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Florence Jellem
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsavegan
be·lieve.
[bəˈlēv]
VERB
1.accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of:
"the superintendent believed Lancaster's story" ·
[more]
synonyms: be convinced by · trust · have confidence in ·
[more]
2.hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose:
"I believe we've already met" ·
[more]
synonyms: think · be of the opinion that · have an idea that ·
[more]
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Thanks, dear, for telling us what the word "believe" means, and even providing a helpful pronunciation guide. I [bəˈlēv] this has been an edifying experience for us all.
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Dear Flo. Thanks for getting with the program and making fun of my posts.
BTW what happened to your parody of "The Light of Love." Did you dry up your creative juices or stop drinking all that whiskey. What kind of whiskey is it?
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12-03-2015, 09:58 PM
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Just keep m'nose clean, egg, chips & beans, I'm always full of steam
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Re: True Believer
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Originally Posted by bobsavegan
You ought to be thankful.
If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.
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There is plenty more in this forum. We just allow the Philosophy subforum to be dominated by self-important shitheads like you. Freethought Forum will get along fine without your useless bullshit.
I know, I said I wouldn't respond to your shit anymore. I've broken fewer promises than you, however; you've promised to fuck off at least a half dozen times and are still here blathering.
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12-03-2015, 10:30 PM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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Re: True Believer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sock Puppet
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Originally Posted by bobsavegan
You ought to be thankful.
If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.
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There is plenty more in this forum. We just allow the Philosophy subforum to be dominated by self-important shitheads like you. Freethought Forum will get along fine without your useless bullshit.
I know, I said I wouldn't respond to your shit anymore. I've broken fewer promises than you, however; you've promised to fuck off at least a half dozen times and are still here blathering.
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You certainly are disrespectful. I am an old man trying to find my way.
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12-03-2015, 10:36 PM
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Just keep m'nose clean, egg, chips & beans, I'm always full of steam
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Re: True Believer
No, you're not. You are a self-absorbed narcissist who refuses to learn, in favor of pretending you already know enough. You have no respect for anyone else, or you would listen once in awhile to the voices outside your head. You would read. You would question rather than assert. And from what you have posted thus far, it appears you've been like this for years. Stop pretending to be a seeker. You seek nothing.
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"Her eyes in certain light were violet, and all her teeth were even. That's a rare, fair feature: even teeth. She smiled to excess, but she chewed with real distinction." - Eleanor of Aquitaine
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12-04-2015, 12:56 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: True Believer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sock Puppet
No, you're not. You are a self-absorbed narcissist who refuses to learn, in favor of pretending you already know enough. You have no respect for anyone else, or you would listen once in awhile to the voices outside your head. You would read. You would question rather than assert. And from what you have posted thus far, it appears you've been like this for years. Stop pretending to be a seeker. You seek nothing.
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Well said.
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12-04-2015, 12:59 AM
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I'm Deplorable.
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Re: True Believer
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsavegan
You ought to be thankful.
If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.
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FYI, picking on Peacegirl is at least amusing even if it amounts to nothing, and responding to your posts, amounts to nothing but wasting time.
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The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don’t know anything about. Wayne Dyer
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12-05-2015, 03:24 PM
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" I am human. I conider nothing that is human as alien to me." Terence
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Re: True Believer
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedoc
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsavegan
You ought to be thankful.
If I don't keep posting new threads you all would be back to picking on peace girl again or have nothing.
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FYI, picking on Peacegirl is at least amusing even if it amounts to nothing, and responding to your posts, amounts to nothing but wasting time.
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Doc. Then it is not good for you to respond to my posts and waste your time
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12-31-2015, 02:43 AM
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still confused
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Re: True Believer
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Originally Posted by bobsavegan
I am an old man trying to find my way.
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Same here. What's that got to do with belief? Are you trying to figure out what you believe, or maybe why you believe the things you do? Do you think belief is a necessary part of the human experience? Are you trying to validate your beliefs?
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01-16-2016, 01:24 AM
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Re: True Believer
Out of curiosity I did a bit of Googling to see where Bob's been posting in the month since he's been away from , but it appears he died on Christmas day. He was something of an asshole, but here's hoping his demise was painless and peaceful.
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"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko
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01-16-2016, 01:32 AM
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Re: True Believer
David Bowie, Alan Rickman, and Bob were all 69. Lemmy had just turned 70. R.I.P.
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01-16-2016, 04:15 AM
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Stoic Derelict... The cup is empty
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Re: True Believer
69 is the new 83.
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