A revolution in thought

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You are displaying your ignorance once again. No one is ultimately blameworthy when looking at things in total perspective.

Dearest darling thousands of newcomers,

Welcome to ! I thought it prudent to give you some insight into peacegirl's stupidity and hypocrisy. Here, for instance, a poster stated that peacegirl believes Hitler did nothing blameworthy. peacegirl describes the statement as "ignorance," then in the very next breath confirms her belief that Hitler was in fact entirely blame-free.

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Despite contending that "[n]o one is ultimately blameworthy," peacegirl has projectile-vomited oceans of blame all over this poor little forum in the nearly seven years she's been here. For instance, you won't have to look far for numerous examples of hateful, jealous, blame-laden tirades against long-time poster ChuckF.

Chuck's only crime was choosing to serve as the True Steward of the intellectual legacy of Seymour Lessans, peacegirl's father. For decades peacegirl has scrubbed, altered and added to Lessans' writings. At this point, the peacegirlian version bears virtually no resemblance to the original work. How do we know that? Because ChuckF rescued the original writings of Seymour Lessans from their peacegirl-imposed exile and shared them with us, that's how.

For his tireless work in sharing the real writings of Seymour Lessans, and exposing the corrupted bastardization proffered by peacegirl, Chuck charges $0.00. Although absolutely no one is buying, peacegirl charges money for her corrupted bastardization.

In one of her lulzier violations of the divine corollary Thou Shalt Not Blame, peacegirl (disgusting pig that she is) failed to do laundry for two months and blamed her inaction on . I kid you not.

We do not blame peacegirl for her disgraceful misconduct. Lessans wrote of certain incorrigibles whose conscience is deficient and will never be able to internalize the no-blame corollary. In the Golden Age, these people will be locked away in mental hospitals, humanely and for their own good. peacegirl is clearly such a person. One can no more blame peacegirl for immoral behavior than one can blame a howler monkey for flinging its own shit.

Still, it behooves us to know who we're dealing with. In the spirit of the inevitable Golden Age, where saying yes to a date will be automatically saying yes to fucking and women will have the goddamn common courtesy to learn how to cook a decedent plate of spaghetti and meatballs, I am happy to provide this service.

xxxooo,
S. Maturin

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You are displaying your ignorance once again. No one is ultimately blameworthy when looking at things in total perspective.

Originally Posted by “Steven Maturin”

Dearest darling thousands of newcomers,

Welcome to ! I thought it prudent to give you some insight into peacegirl's stupidity and hypocrisy. Here, for instance, a poster stated that peacegirl believes Hitler did nothing blameworthy. peacegirl describes the statement as "ignorance," then in the very next breath confirms her belief that Hitler was in fact entirely blame-free.

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Complete lack of understanding! No surprise!!

Originally Posted by “Steven Maturin”

Despite contending that "[n]o one is ultimately blameworthy," peacegirl has projectile-vomited oceans of blame all over this poor little forum in the nearly seven years she's been here. For instance, you won't have to look far for numerous examples of hateful, jealous, blame-laden tirades against long-time poster ChuckF.

Chuck's only crime was choosing to serve as the True Steward of the intellectual legacy of Seymour Lessans, peacegirl's father. For decades peacegirl has scrubbed, altered and added to Lessans' writings. At this point, the peacegirlian version bears virtually no resemblance to the original work. How do we know that? Because ChuckF rescued the original writings of Seymour Lessans from their peacegirl-imposed exile and shared them with us, that's how.

For his tireless work in sharing the real writings of Seymour Lessans, and exposing the corrupted bastardization proffered by peacegirl, Chuck charges $0.00. Although absolutely no one is buying, peacegirl charges money for her corrupted bastardization.

In one of her lulzier violations of the divine corollary Thou Shalt Not Blame, peacegirl (disgusting pig that she is) failed to do laundry for two months and blamed her inaction on . I kid you not.

We do not blame peacegirl for her disgraceful misconduct. Lessans wrote of certain incorrigibles whose conscience is deficient and will never be able to internalize the no-blame corollary. In the Golden Age, these people will be locked away in mental hospitals, humanely and for their own good. peacegirl is clearly such a person. One can no more blame peacegirl for immoral behavior than one can blame a howler monkey for flinging its own shit.

Still, it behooves us to know who we're dealing with. In the spirit of the inevitable Golden Age, where saying yes to a date will be automatically saying yes to fucking and women will have the goddamn common courtesy to learn how to cook a decedent plate of spaghetti and meatballs, I am happy to provide this service.

xxxooo,
S. Maturin

Complete lack of understanding. There is no correcting you because you don’t want to be corrected. You’re having too much fun with your disgusting lulz and your filthy tongue. Your mother should have washed your mouth out with soap a long time ago. You’re as rotten as they come! I trust that the newcomers are capable of using their own judgment. Your constant attacks are going to backfire one day.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Complete lack of understanding! No surprise!!

Indeed. It is wholly unsurprising that you have no idea what Lessans was trying to say.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

peacegirl, why did you blame for your failure to do your laundry for two months?

[ChuckF]

[thanks] “Steven Maturin”

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Indeed. It is wholly unsurprising that you have no idea what Lessans was trying to say.

peacegirl, why did you blame for your failure to do your laundry for two months?

I’m done talking to you!

[Stephen Maturin]

Promises, promises.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Complete lack of understanding. There is no correcting you because you don’t want to be corrected.

Classic PG projection. YOU lack understanding. YOU don't want to be corrected.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You’re having too much fun with your disgusting lulz and your filthy tongue.

So what if he is? Are you saying Maturin shouldn't be allowed to have fun with his tongue?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I trust that the newcomers are capable of using their own judgment.

Who are these 'newcomers'? Have they been vetted by the internet checkers? Are we sure they haven't already been compromised by elicit lever usage?

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

So what if he is? Are you saying Maturin shouldn't be allowed to have fun with his tongue?

Unfortunately, Spacemonkey, peacegirl just can't stop going there. To her credit, the elderly hag apparently still has visions of vigorous Golden Age dinner table rumpy pumpy. She simply can't get it through her booze-addled mind that my germinal substance belongs to another.

[Florence Jellem]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Are you saying Maturin shouldn't be allowed to have fun with his tongue?

My third husband, Harold (or was it Arnold?) had plenty of fun with his tongue. ... TBH, it got quite tiresome after a while. ...

[peacegirl]

Compatibilism: A Parable (comic) -

[peacegirl]

Timeless lyrics: We can't return we can only look behind from where we came.

Joni Mitchell - The Circle Game - YouTube

[Stephen Maturin]

The child molester lost that U.S. Senate election in Alabama. Yet another setback for the Revolution in Thought.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

The child molester lost that U.S. Senate election in Alabama. Yet another setback for the Revolution in Thought.

True enough, Citizen Doctor, true enough.

Mr. Moore was trying to extend and apply the Grass on the Field Axiom in his own life, decades ago - and perhaps trying, in his way, to bring about the Golen Age?

And he was blamed for it! Let us not forget the plain words of the Authentic Text as written by the Author and published in his lifetime, not so long before Mr. Moore was applying these mathematical principles at the mall:

[Stephen Maturin]

Since peacegirl has vowed yet again never to return to this thread, we may poke fun at Seymour "What's the big deal about date rape?" Lessans free of peacegirl's blameful vomitus.

Early on, we read in the version of the Corrupted Text that peacegirl posted online about the Great Man's efforts to get the attention of President Nixon (efforts that occurred long before the Great Man's lawsuit against President Carter). Lessans' histrionics in that regard inspired davidm to create this.

In the same version of the Corrupted Text, peacegirl replaced Chapter 10 (discussing immortality via pronoun usage) with this. When confronted with how laughably wrong the statement about "trillions upon trillions of babies coming into the world since time immemorial" is, peacegirl denied that Lessans ever said any such thing. She then told us that the Great Man "could have been off with his math, I'm not sure" but adequately covered his bases with "since time immemorial," which is, like, a really really long time. After all, "[p]eople had big families" billions of years ago. And, as always, if the Great Man had been wrong, he would have admitted it. Since Pimp Daddy never admitted error regarding the "trillions and trillions of babies" comment, he was probably right after all.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Since peacegirl has vowed yet again never to return to this thread, we may poke fun at Seymour "What's the big deal about date rape?" Lessans free of peacegirl's blameful vomitus.

Early on, we read in the version of the Corrupted Text that peacegirl posted online about the Great Man's efforts to get the attention of President Nixon (efforts that occurred long before the Great Man's lawsuit against President Carter). Lessans' histrionics in that regard inspired davidm to create this.

In the same version of the Corrupted Text, peacegirl replaced Chapter 10 (discussing immortality via pronoun usage) with this. When confronted with how laughably wrong the statement about "trillions upon trillions of babies coming into the world since time immemorial" is, peacegirl denied that Lessans ever said any such thing. She then told us that the Great Man "could have been off with his math, I'm not sure" but adequately covered his bases with "since time immemorial," which is, like, a really really long time. After all, "[p]eople had big families" billions of years ago. And, as always, if the Great Man had been wrong, he would have admitted it. Since Pimp Daddy never admitted error regarding the "trillions and trillions of babies" comment, he was probably right after all.

What is comical to me is how you keep bringing this thread back to life. Why don't you let the thread rest if you dislike it so much? You're just drawing more attention to it. Real smart, eh?

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Why don't you let the thread rest if you dislike it so much?

peacegirl, why do you think Stephen Maturin "dislike[s]" my Revolution in Thought thread?

I think he likes it very much - after all, it is the thread in which I, the True Steward of the Authentic Text, revealed to the world for the first time the Authentic Text as written by the author and published in his lifetime. What's not to like?

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

If people actually believe what you're saying, I suggest they never ever read my compilation, . . .

I agree in part. No one should ever read your compilation under any circumstances, regardless of whether or not one believes anything I have to say. The mathematical, scientific and undeniable truth of the matter is that your compilation is irredeemably corrupt and fraudulent. There is no room for debate or discussion about that fact.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

or any of his books.

On this I strongly disagree. People should most definitely read the Authentic Text penned and published by Lessans during his lifetime. As we know, ChuckF rescued the Authentic Text from the exile you unsuccessfully tried to impose upon it. He is sharing the Authentic Text with a world in need free of charge, whereas you're trying to make bank on your fraudulent Corrupted Text, which is fraudulent and corrupt.

Our trillions upon trillions of newcomers are cordially invited to join us in 's private forums, where exegesis of the Authentic Text continues apace.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You know how to play the blame game, nothing else.

peacegirl, why did you blame your filthy, piggish failure to do laundry for two months on ? Thou shalt not blame, peacegirl, thou shalt not blame.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

What is comical to me is how you keep bringing this thread back to life.

That's funny indeed, but not for the reason you believe. Yesterday in one of your dumbfuck alt-med crackpot threads, you announced that you would never, ever return to this thread. I posted to goad you into breaking your word yet again, and the result was a stunning success. You scampered back here within a handful of hours.

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You elderly Dunning-Kruger types are nothing if not predictable.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Why don't you let the thread rest if you dislike it so much?

Predictably, you've got it all wrong. I enjoy ChuckF's "A Revolution in Thought" thread immensely.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Real smart, eh?

Indeed. Thank you!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

I agree in part. No one should ever read your compilation under any circumstances, regardless of whether or not one believes anything I have to say. The mathematical, scientific and undeniable truth of the matter is that your compilation is irredeemably corrupt and fraudulent. There is no room for debate or discussion about that fact.

On this I strongly disagree. People should most definitely read the Authentic Text penned and published by Lessans during his lifetime. As we know, ChuckF rescued the Authentic Text from the exile you unsuccessfully tried to impose upon it. He is sharing the Authentic Text with a world in need free of charge, whereas you're trying to make bank on your fraudulent Corrupted Text, which is fraudulent and corrupt.

Our trillions upon trillions of newcomers are cordially invited to join us in 's private forums, where exegesis of the Authentic Text continues apace.

peacegirl, why did you blame your filthy, piggish failure to do laundry for two months on ? Thou shalt not blame, peacegirl, thou shalt not blame.

That's funny indeed, but not for the reason you believe. Yesterday in one of your dumbfuck alt-med crackpot threads, you announced that you would never, ever return to this thread. I posted to goad you into breaking your word yet again, and the result was a stunning success. You scampered back here within a handful of hours.

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You elderly Dunning-Kruger types are nothing if not predictable.

Predictably, you've got it all wrong. I enjoy ChuckF's "A Revolution in Thought" thread immensely.

Indeed. Thank you!

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It's not worth the read.

And yet ...

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

That is true. EXTEND the principles to see where it leads. You have failed miserably!

Originally Posted by Chuck

Thou shall not blame, peacegirl. Thou shall not blame.

Telling you that you failed miserably is not blaming you. But I will blame you for your lies. Thou shall blame, chuck. Thou shall blame.

Originally Posted by Chuck

peacegirl, I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text. I reject your Corrupted Text, because it is Corrupt. I interpret the Authentic Text as written by the author and published in his lifetime, and I do so without blame from you.

NO Chuck, you keep misrepresenting what he said. You are an imposter. This excerpt is not meant for you. It is meant for the newcomers who have a brain.

Once it is established that man's will is not free, as was just demonstrated, we cannot assume that it is free because philosophers like Durant could not get by the implications. Therefore, we must begin our reasoning where he left off which means that we are going to accept the magic elixir (call it what you will, corollary, slide rule or basic principle), THOU SHALL NOT BLAME, and transmute the baser mettles of human nature into the pure gold of the Golden Age even though it presents what appears to be an insurmountable problem, for how is it possible not to blame people who hurt us when we know they didn’t have to do this if they didn’t want to.

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In reality we are all the result of forces completely beyond our
control. As we extend the corollary, Thou Shall Not Blame, we are
able to see for the very first time how it is now within our power to
prevent those things for which blame and punishment came into
existence. Although Spinoza did not understand the full significance
of this enigmatic corollary, he accepted it by rejecting the opposite
principle of an eye for an eye by refusing to defend himself against his
sister or blame her for cheating him out of his inheritance. Neither
he nor his sister had a free choice because the one was willing to cheat
to get what she wanted while he was willing to be cheated rather than
hold her responsible. Spinoza made matters worse for himself
financially, but at that moment of time he had no free choice because
it gave him greater satisfaction to let her cheat him out of what he was
entitled to by law. Both of them were moving in the direction of what
gave them satisfaction.

Spinoza’s sister had no understanding of this
knowledge nor did the world at that time, although Spinoza himself
knew that man’s will is not free. Consequently, he allowed others to
hurt him with a first blow by turning the other cheek. He was
excommunicated from the synagogue while being God-intoxicated,
which seems to be a contradiction. You would think that a person
would be thrown out for being an atheist but not for being a God-
intoxicated man. The fact that I know God is a reality doesn’t
intoxicate me. I know that the sun is also a reality but when the heat
gets unbearable, should I jump for joy? There is no comparison
between Spinoza and myself. He was a gentle man, I am not. He
refused to blame his sister for stealing what rightfully belonged to him
because he was confused and believed she couldn’t help herself. I, on
the other hand, would never advocate turning the other cheek when
someone can get the advantage by not turning it. He excused her
conduct, but if someone tried to take what belonged to me I’d fight
him tooth and nail. Turning the other cheek under these conditions
could lead to further harm, which is why most people reject the pacifist
position. How is it humanly possible not to fight back when one is
being hurt first, which goes back to the justification of an eye for an
eye and a tooth for a tooth. I personally would get greater satisfaction
defending myself or retaliating against those people who would do, or
have done, things to hurt me and my family. I’m not a saint, but a
scientist of human conduct. Most of mankind is compelled, for
greater satisfaction, to move in this direction.

Therefore, it should be
clear that the corollary, Thou Shall Not Blame, does not mean that
you should suddenly stop blaming because you have discovered that
man’s will is not free. It only means at this point that we are going to
follow it, to extend it, to see exactly where it takes us, something that
investigators like Durant have never done because the implications
prevented them from opening the door beyond the vestibule. The fact
that man’s will is not free only means that he is compelled to move in
the direction of greater satisfaction. If you sock me I might get
greater satisfaction in socking you back. However, once man
understands what it means that his will is not free, this desire to sock
me is prevented by your realization that I will never blame you for
hurting me. Until this knowledge is understood we will be compelled
to continue living in the world of free will, otherwise, we would only
make matters worse for ourselves.

To show you how confused is the understanding of someone who
doesn’t grasp these principles, a local columnist interested in my ideas,
so he called them, made the statement that I believe that man should
not be blamed for anything he does which is true only when man
knows what it means that his will is not free. If he doesn’t know, he
is compelled to blame by his very nature. Christ also received
incursions of thought from this same principle which compelled him
to turn the other cheek and remark as he was being nailed to the cross,
“They know not what they do,” forgiving his enemies even in the
moment of death. How was it possible for him to blame them when
he knew that they were not responsible? But they knew what they
were doing and he could not stop them even by turning the other
cheek. Religion was compelled to believe that God was not responsible
for the evil in the world, whereas Spinoza and Christ believed correctly
that there was no such thing as evil when seen in total perspective.
But how was it possible, except for people like Christ and Spinoza, to
forgive those who trespassed against them? And how was it possible
for those who became victims of this necessary evil to look at it in
total perspective? Is it any wonder man cried out to God for
understanding? The time has arrived to clear up all the confusion and
reconcile these two opposite principles, which requires that you keep
an open mind and proceed with the investigation. Let me show you
how this apparent impasse can be rephrased in terms of possibility.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

But I will blame you for your lies. Thou shall blame, chuck. Thou shall blame.

Would you blame a robot for its thoughts and actions?

(Or maybe the robot analogy only applies to Hitler and McVeigh.)

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

But I will blame you for your lies.

I know, peacegirl; you scorn that magic elixir offered by the Authentic Text, and you blame me because of the undeniable, scientific and mathematical reality that I am the True Steward of the Authentic Text, as surely as 3 is to 6 as 4 is to 8.

You find no reason to blame Adolf Hitler or Timothy McVeigh for their evils. Yet you conjure reason to blame me, only because I love the Authentic Text.

I do not blame you for this, peacegirl, because I consider the source.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

This excerpt is not meant for you. It is meant for the newcomers who have a brain.

Dear newcomers, in your multitudes, know that peacegirl's Corrupted Text is Corrupt. It is not the Authentic Text; it is her Corruptions, which she hawks to the gullible on the Internet for lucre. But we do not blame her for this.

I implore you not to purchase her Corrupted Text. If, for some reason, you wish to have a copy of her Corrupted Text, I will send you one free of charge, in order that you should not purchase it from her and support her further Corruption.

I invite you to join me, the True Steward of the Authentic Text, in interpreting the Authentic Text as written by the author and published in his lifetime. I will never ask you for money or charge you for the Authentic Text, for as the True Steward of the Authentic Text, I prize its integrity over lucre.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

[huge swathe of Corrupted Text deleted]

peacegirl, I reject your Corruptions. I have no use for your Corrupted Text, because it is Corrupt.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Thou shall blame, chuck. Thou shall blame.

Originally Posted by Lessans

THOU SHALL NOT BLAME

Why do you hate your father so much, Peacegirl?

Why do you show such utter contempt for the man and his legacy?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

Would you blame a robot for its thoughts and actions?

(Or maybe the robot analogy only applies to Hitler and McVeigh.)

No Maturin, again you are misleading the newcomers. That was a comment to show that we are not robots according to the true definition of determinism. That was very clear in the book but you didn’t read it.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Why do you hate your father so much, Peacegirl?

Why do you show such utter contempt for the man and his legacy?

I loved him! You can’t rewrite my history! But try as you might because you don’t like his claims! It will have no bearing on the truth!