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Let's not get absurd. Mexicans are Indians, Spaniards are Moors.
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It's never good to be the target of unfair criticism from an executive. It's worse when they get caught doing it--their apologies are profuse, but you know they're going to get you eventually.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:42 AM
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I thought there was some other thrad about It Gets Better, but I'm not seeing it, so I'm putting this here:

Savage Love by Dan Savage - Columns - Savage Love - Dan Savage - The Stranger, Seattle's Only Newspaper

I don't like a lot of things about Dan Savage, but I like this. Dumbshits and evil fucks and bullies need to get called out every single time. It's not going to change their minds, but it might serve as negative reinforcement. If they get called out enough, they might eventually learn to shut the fuck up.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:41 AM
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I like Dan Savage.

Also, why not put this in two minutes love?
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:45 PM
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I like Dan Savage.
Yeah, he's likable, as long as he stays away from things he's a bigot about, including transgendered people, fat people, and pit bulls, which he goes on tirades about sometimes for no good reason. (Ha ha ha! That's hilarious!) And he's a little hinky on black people, too, particularly evident in his trying to start a Black vs. Gay thing after Proposition 8.

It's weird trying to reconcile the normal, likable stuff with the random hate and shitheadedness he pops out every now and again. It's like he has an evil twin who sneaks that shit in.

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It has both, and I lean toward the hate, because I do not love Dan Savage even when he says something I like. So HA.
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Yeah, he's likable, as long as he stays away from things he's a bigot about, including transgendered people, fat people, and pit bulls, which he goes on tirades about sometimes for no good reason. (Ha ha ha! That's hilarious!) And he's a little hinky on black people, too, particularly evident in his trying to start a Black vs. Gay thing after Proposition 8.
Oh yeah, he's not very rational about the dogs thing.

Even if you think there're too many dog bites occurring, there are more rational responses than just "ban pitbulls!!!"

But he's not that bad about the other stuff... I mean, he has some problems with those things, but on transgendered people he's definitely better than most people. I kinda agree about some of the stuff relating to fat people.

He's gone back on his post-Prop. 8 crap, which was an irrational response.
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Even if you think there're too many dog bites occurring, there are more rational responses than just "ban pitbulls!!!"
Banning humans would work just as well. :unnod:
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CVS Pharmacist lacks compassion, human decency.

I'll allow that there's room for things that I Don't Know™. Maybe there's some CVS CYA policy in action (or, as in this case, inaction) at work here. Or maybe this pharmacist is a dick. Right now, I'm going to lean heavily on the this pharmacist is a dick.

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Just after seven o'clock Thursday morning, Katherine O'Connor and her boyfriend were walking home from a McDonald's in Garwood, New Jersey, when she suffered an asthma attack.

"It has been happening every day for the past four or five days," she said.

Her inhaler was at home. The couple was near there, but a CVS on North Avenue, near Cedar Street, was closer. They went in and found the pharmacist on duty.

"I had exactly a twenty-dollar bill. It came to twenty-one and change," Jack Brown said. "I offered him my cell phone, my wallet. I said i live right around the corner. I come in here all the time."

He was told the inhaler with tax would cost just over $21. He was short a dollar and change.

"I said 'Can you just give her the pump. She's on the floor wheezing," Jack said. "I didn't know if an ambulance would get there on time. He said there was nothing he could do for me."

"He said there's nothing I can do. I was just blown away," Katherine said.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:30 PM
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She didn't die. What's the beef?
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I have several minutes of hate lined up today. And they all happened one right after another! I should be a bubbling cauldron of rage and vinegar, but by the end I was "Well, fuck. This is just stupid!"

The first two minutes have been on a slow simmer since last week. For those who don't care, and by my count that's a lot of you, last week Bill O'Riley appeared with the ladies of The View. He said some things, some of them said some things and then there was raised voices and then maybe some higher raised voices and then Whoopie and Joy walked off. Not that they care or anything but I lost some respect for them because of it. By contrast, note Elisabeth Hasselbeck has pretty much sat there and used her big-girl words against those with whom she has disagreed. So, you can take that for what it's worth. And before the end of that show Barbara demonstrated why The View is her show, so you pretenders betta reckanise.

Interim note: I do not watch The View. This became Big News on the aggregate sites I visit, so I know it from osmosis.

But your friendly neighborhood BrotherMan was willing to give people some space to be people, maybe realize something they could have done better, handled more magnanimously, or what have you. To my thinking this was completely unprofessional behavior by Whoopie and Joy. Granted they're not "real journalists" nor do they necessarily claim to be anything greater than simply comedians who have a good gig. Perhaps, then, I'm holding them to a standard to which they don't wish to be held? But still, in some more recent episode (gizmodo link for reference, with embedded video) they spoke amongst themselves concerning the brouhaha and any vestigal hostly, reporterly respect I wanted to keep for them was even greaterly diminished. And yet again Barbara Walters demonstrates objectively and with some finality that she is the woman.

Okay, that's two minutes down.

Second on my list is this, also from giz aggregation. I never held any contempt for the DARE program. I was a good boy growing up. I listen to those in authority over me and considered their wisened words as they applied to my life. Drugs are bad m'kay. I never did them and as far as I know with any certainty, I never saw any of my friends use drugs. I certainly suspected with a greater degree of certitude that some did, but I never saw it happen therefore I was never in a position of being caught between my ideals and the reality of keeping or protecting friends.

I feel sorry for this kid, though. Did he suspect this would be the outcome? I can't know. At 11 I don't think I would have thought that deeply about it. But that a child felt compelled by a government sponsored organisation - and not even one that has any actual authority - that he turned in his own parents and will now be forced to make do in some other environment raises my ire, but that boils over when this organisation calls this behavior "this sad, horrible incident is a "success" for the D.A.R.E. program."

My dad, for right or wrong, taught me how to keep a secret. Though his advice on the matter was actually quite sexist "son, you can tell some people some things but you can't tell women anything." But I smartly modified it internally to apply to everyone. Extending this morality and jiggering it a bit, adjusting the polarity and all that, I reason that unless lives (and possibly property) are in danger, there's no reason to turn on friends or family. (This is not, I should add, a hard or fast rule. Merely a signpost to a forking road that forks nearly infinitely.)

Minutes five and six of hate are taken up by the Tea Party. Namely, classy Joe Miller who invited people to a rally (or some other I'm So Important, Look at Me event) via the intensely private Facebooks and Tweeters. And for his troubles he had to arrest, oh, wait, he doesn't have that authority, "detain" a rogue editor to an online news site. How terrible that someone showed up to an event that didn't require tickets, was being held on public school grounds and dared question the mighty candidate after the event was over! There's probably even more within that tempest that needs a good raging at, but I'm out of energy by now.

And how strange is my news day when this story is the palate cleanser? Apparently, Homer Simpson is Catholic. Oh, Vatican, how you try so hard to be hip. Too bad you have all of this baggage that no amount of Poochie-ing will ever make that happen.
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Is there an option to have your kid not attend DARE classes?

Maybe more parents ought to look into that, especially if they're responsible drug users themselves.
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Second on my list is this, also from giz aggregation. I never held any contempt for the DARE program.
The regional director of DARE once called me to yell at me for keeping LM out of DARE* and making a stink about it at his school, and I just laughed at him and told him he was stupid, but he kept going and getting madder and madder the more I made fun of him.

I am pretty sure I could have made him stroke out if I'd kept him on the phone another five minutes or so.

* Largely because I don't want to burn my credibility by feeding my kid a bunch of alarmist lies about pot, and then have him blow me off when I warn him off meth or something.
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Been 10 years or so since I last paid much attention, but back then, despite a fair amount of study, there was no evidence that DARE or programs like it had any effect on drug use among youngsters.
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DARE was effective on me until I started being friends with people who used drugs and realized that their lives did not enter a downward spiral from which they never recovered as a result of smoking a little weed.
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Been 10 years or so since I last paid much attention, but back then, despite a fair amount of study, there was no evidence that DARE or programs like it had any effect on drug use among youngsters.
Some showed that it was actually detrimental, which jibes with what I saw from LM's friends. Although there might be a correlation-causation thing going on, because the kids who really embraced DARE tended to be slower and more gullible than the ones who didn't.
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DARE worked for me. They had us all write a "drugs are bad, mmmkay?" essay and mine won a golden beet. :medal:

And I gave up cocaine when I left the womb and never did any other drugs except for that time when I'm pretty sure my stoner friends slipped some weed into birthday cupcakes.

Of course, then I had no idea where to get pot when someone I loved may have really been able to benefit from the anti-nausea and appetite-stimulating side effects of it. He couldn't have tried it anyway, since it's illegal and if he had gotten caught they definitely would have denied him the treatment he needed (which ended up happening anyway). Fucking war on drugs.
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I was expelled from the DARE program on the second day, so I never had the pleasure of being taught how to say "no", a word I was already well familiar with since I was a toddler. :sadcheer:
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I'm engaged in discussion in an online chat with a support rep from Sony, and I'm getting better results in another tab in which I am asking the same questions of an ALICE bot.
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High school cheerleader kicked off squad for refusing to cheer for her rapist by name

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I am super cranky because of:

A: That video of the guy talking to the protesters outside of the women's clinic.
B: That other video of the guy stomping on the girl and how he thinks she needs to apologize over it.
C: That school board guy that wants all the gay teens to kill thereselves.

It's been about two days of hate now, and it's really harshing my buzz. I am going to the sanity rally this weekend and I was borderline hopeful that everybody on earth isn't a shrieking asshole, but the last couple days have really taken the love from my tummy. :sadcheer:
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