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. The study, by Christopher F. Cardiff and Daniel B. Klein, finds an average Democrat:Republican ratio of 5:1, ranging from 9:1 at Berkeley to 1:1 at Pepperdine. The humanities average 10:1, while business schools are at only 1.3:1. (Needless to say, even at the heartless, dog-eat-dog, sycophant-of-the-bourgeoisie business schools the ratio doesn’t dip below 1:1.)

So leftards always make excuse for blacks,women,minority etc bu why are conservative and libertarian so under-rapresented in academia?

By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative

If we count only Humanities over 90% of the professors are more liberal than Obama,the most far-left president in the US history

You want affirmative action for blacks and minorities because you can't admit that they do very bad because they have lower IQ and get low SAT scores but when conservative-libertarian want their affirmative actions to counter liberal bias you liberal scream "you fail at teaching because you stupid"

I love socialists doublestandard

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One can but wonder.

You're embarrassing, AynMiseryLolbertarian. Seriously.
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You want affirmative action for blacks and minorities because you can't admit that they do very bad because they have lower IQ and get low SAT scores but when conservative-libertarian want their affirmative actions to counter liberal bias you liberal scream "you fail at teaching because you stupid"
So you are saying that conservative-libertarians need some kind of affirmative action to make sure that despite their lower IQ's and lower performance at SAT scores they can get a higher level of "raprasentation" in academics?

Fascinating. I was not aware of any studies measuring the IQ of the average rand-style libertarian, but your conclusion sure seems to match anecdotal evidence.

Do you think conservative libertarians are economically vulnerable and there for less likely to do well academically, or do you believe they are just genetically predisposed to have lower IQ's?

If it is the former, then I am afraid it would be self-defeating, as the extra access to education your affirmative action will provide seems to make the likelihood of them becoming liberals a lot higher - after all, those that can cut the mustard academically seem to end up more liberal even than Obama by an overwhelming majority, which according to you means they end up slightly to the left of Mao Ze Dong.

And if it is a genetic disposition, then affirmative action would seem a waste of time that would just dumb down academics, would it not?

Maybe we are looking at the problem the wrong way, and should ask ourselves what it is about randi-mises type libertarianism that seems to attract people who do not do well academically and have sub-normal IQ's.
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bu why are conservative and libertarian so under-rapresented in academia?
One can but wonder.

You're embarrassing, AynMiseryLolbertarian. Seriously.
Shame on you Stormlight. AMS is part of an underprivileged minority that does less well in IQ tests and SAT scores, which leads to them not be as well represented in academics as normal people. We should applaud the fact that he is trying to finish at least some kind of degree, despite his severe handicap. Thank goodness that there will always be work for him as a fox news economist once he grows up.
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AMS is part of an underprivileged minority that does less well in IQ tests and SAT scores, which leads to them not be as well represented in academics as normal people.
Aka racist pond-scum.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:44 PM
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conservative/libertarians are discriminated against because the role of public school/education is brainwashed the future generation into accept the authority of the state and socialists value...this is real discrimination unlike the "discrimination" against black people/women/homosexual that exists only in the marxist fantasies

Why "professors" do this? because they are public employees,without the nanny state and public school 99% of them(expecially those who "teach" humanities and shit for losers) would be in the street begging for a job
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Ah I see! And this discrimination is why you keep scoring so low on your IQ tests and SAT scores? Not because you are just not able to do them properly, but because they are geared to make libertarians score lower?

I have to say all the facts support you in this case. The professors are clearly succeeding in keeping you ignorant, unable to think logically, and unable to express yourself clearly.
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Much like you will be pretty soon, amirite? Idiot.
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AMS is part of an underprivileged minority that does less well in IQ tests and SAT scores, which leads to them not be as well represented in academics as normal people.
Aka racist pond-scum.
I didn't say it was a NICE minority. Or, for that matter, a particularly small one. But you have to admit that as a rule they are pretty ignorant. The problem is, if you cure them of their ignorance, they also stop being part of the minority, so I do not see this problem go away any time soon.
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AMS is part of an underprivileged minority that does less well in IQ tests and SAT scores, which leads to them not be as well represented in academics as normal people.
Aka racist pond-scum.
Now that's uncalled for. Pond scum performs a crucial (if unsavory) role in the pond ecosystem. There's no need to call it names.
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Much like you will be pretty soon, amirite? Idiot.
first I have scored 110+ on various internet IQ tests

second I have a well paid job assured on my family's business

good try
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first I have scored 110+ on various internet IQ tests

second I have a well paid job assured on my family's business

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Are you really that retarded? Seriously? Good god.
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Why "professors" do this?
I can't speak for the others, but my own discipline got its job description from the public court in Athens. A two-fold mandate, in fact, revolving around

1. impiety; and
2. the corruption of the youth.

So that's why I'm busy poisoning young minds and sinning against Our Lord Invisible Hand.
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would be in the street begging for a job
Much like you will be pretty soon, amirite? Idiot.
first I have scored 110+ on various internet IQ tests

second I have a well paid job assured on my family's business

good try
Ah I see! Regardless of how well you do in your school or how hard you work? Good to see the proponents of meritocracy are living up to their own standards!

AML don't ever change. Arguing with you is like being in a fight with a man who cannot help but beat himself up. All I have to do is suggest a place for you to punch yourself in next.

I especially love that you say you score 110 "on various internet IQ tests"... I tried to think of something that would make you sound dumber, but I cannot think of anything. No doubt you will help me out presently.
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I have a well paid job assured on my family's business
This is what is known in libertarian circles as "pulling oneself up by one's own bootstraps".

All black people have the same thing going for them, surely? No need for this discrimination of white people with family businesses!
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Someone is clearly having a great time trolling us by pretending to be a caricature of a lolbertarian. If they really were this stupid they would not be able to read or write.
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Yeahreally. Nobody is that dumb...
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Cool little persona though. Spoilt little boy, living of his daddies and mummies wallet, not doing so well in college and blaming it on the lefties and the libruls, thinks that playing online poker makes him a smart operator, desperate to claim superiority while having no achievements of his own to boast of.

Speaks in hit-and-run remarks that are completely self-defeating, has fool-proof plans to become a millionaire taxi-mogul in New York that 10 minutes of research would show is actually impossible. Of course in reality he knows he will just get a job with mummy and daddy so he will never have to test his mettle in the real world. And yet he pretends he is a self-made man, despite the fact that even if he DOES try to start his own business, he will have the safety of the parental wallet to run back to.

In short, someone with a lot of privilege that he never earned, trying to pretend he is one of Rand's Ubermenschen because it very conveniently allows him to feel superior despite being a distinctly mediocre-and-below performer in just about every aspect of life.

If he did not exist, we would be forced to invent him :)
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But the internets say he have IQ 110++++!
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So leftards always make excuse for blacks,women,minority etc bu why are conservative and libertarian so under-rapresented in academia?
Why indeed? Let us consider this troubling puzzle.

Perhaps it's something to do with the fact that intellectuals and intellectualism is held in disrepute in conservative and lolbertarian circles, that we frequently find calls from that quarter to turn universities into vo-tech colleges, and that conservatives and lolbertarians are quickest off the mark to suggest slashing funding for higher education and to attack professors for their alleged "leftism"?

Leaving that aside, using the Democratic-to-Republican ratio as a metric for conservative sentiment is silly because both the major political parties in the U.S. are right-wing.

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Cite, please?

The last time I'm aware of anyone bothering to check, it was the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, which found that only 5.8% thought themselves "left", 33.8% identified as "liberal", 26.6% were "middle of the road", 29.6% said they were "moderately conservative", and 4.2% claimed to be "strongly conservative". Bell curves are apparently something that conservatives love, so I'll let you work the implications out for yourself.

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I swear, you are the stupidest lolbertarian I have ever met, in a long history of making the acquaintance of stupid lolbertarians. You are using the ratio of registered Democrats to Republicans as a basis for claiming that all these Democratic-identifying humanities professors are "more liberal than" Obama... who is a Democrat. Now, how does your data support that claim, or do you just intuit by the power of the Invisible Hand what the opinions of tens of thousands of people are in relation to the president?

I hope your mystic knowledge mediated by the Invisible Hand is better at judging the political beliefs of professors unknown to you than a president who is known to you, because he is certainly not the most "far-left" president ever. In fact, he's pretty much Dubya Redux, if slightly more literate.

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You want affirmative action for blacks and minorities because you can't admit that they do very bad because they have lower IQ and get low SAT scores but when conservative-libertarian want their affirmative actions to counter liberal bias you liberal scream "you fail at teaching because you stupid"

I love socialists doublestandard

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Wait! The "conservative-libertarian want their affirmative actions" after decades of decrying them for ethnic "minorities"? Shouldn't you have titled this post "The conservative-libertarian double-standard" then?

Also, I thought the purpose of affirmative action was to rectify the effect of low socioeconomic status, not because of allegedly "low IQ", and certainly not just because some whiners with a sense of grievance and an overdeveloped sense of their own merit (the "conservative-libertarian" you refer to) decide that they deserve jobs in academia merely by showing up.
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IQ transfer is theft!!
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Yes, please note AML actually acknowledged and linked to his source this time. Apparently he is not entirely ineducable.
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