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Old 06-06-2011, 03:40 AM
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It's official: all the Starks are fucking stupid. The only exceptions are Arya and possibly that youngest boy who I barely knew existed until he showed up in Bran's room speaking the obvious truth that none of the rest of them seem to be able to grasp.

Awesome things in this episode include:

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Old 06-06-2011, 03:56 AM
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Adding to liv's list of awesome from this episode

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Gather round, kiddies, while I tell you three things I love about this show.

The genre deconstruction. In general, I cannot stand fantasy shows and novels that are all about So-and-So, Son of So-and-So, going to war against Sir So-and-So of House So-and-So. OMG, tedious! If they're not Klingon, I do not give a fuck. But then they have King Robert on his deathbed all hand-wavey, "you know how it goes ... titles, titles, titles," because even before he got fatally wounded, he gave less of a shit about any of it it than I do. Then Tyrion's excruciatingly formal introduction of the mountain savages to his father, and Bronn's, "you wouldn't know him," quip about his own, I'm like, Jesus this shit is hilarious.

No omniscience. Nobody knows anything before they know it. Everybody gets their own reaction scene to the news of Robert's death in their own time. Cat's sister is all, "bitch, you're lucky I even let you read my mail!" Danerys is about to declare war on a dead guy. bey compared it to a Shakespearean tragedy but of course my luddite ass is all, "It's like Three's Company!

The significant looks. These fucking talented actors convey so much information and emotion every time they make eye-contact. As fabulous as the dialog is, there is so much that doesn't need to be said if they just let these guys tell the story with their eyes. Tyrion's "srsly?!" face is my favorite.

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Goddamnit, sometimes I really do love you, ESe.
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No omniscience. Nobody knows anything before they know it. Everybody gets their own reaction scene to the news of Robert's death in their own time. Cat's sister is all, "bitch, you're lucky I even let you read my mail!" Danerys is about to declare war on a dead guy. bey compared it to a Shakespearean tragedy but of course my luddite ass is all, "It's like Three's Company!
This is like crack to me. I hate the way I feel in books and stories like this, where everything would be so much fucking better if only a few people actually knew wtf was going on. I hate it so, so much, but I just... can't... stop.

Or maybe it's more like cutting? I don't know, aside from laziness I don't actually have any self-destructive/dangerous behaviors.
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:unnod: Or Shagga, son of Dolf, will cut off your manhood and feed it to the goats.
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The below is a quite possibly spoilery rant for those who haven't seen tonight's episode.

Unsullied (heh), you have been warned!



Erm.

Maybe I'm too invested in this world Mr. Martin invented ...
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:04 AM
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So did I understand correctly that Jorah is the son of the Lord Commander of the NW? I still don't have all the family names and the heraldry sorted out.
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You are correct, liv. Jorah is the son of the Lord Commander.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:25 PM
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:unnod: Exactly how I felt.

Now is when my favorite part of Arya's adventure (so far) begins. :wriggle:
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Okay, I'm done with the spoiler bars so if you haven't seen the latest episode, stop reading now.

Here's &NR=1 of an immediate reaction to the events at the end.

Now I want a t-shirt that says, "They killed my nigga Ned, man!"
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Even though I knew what was going to happen, my eyes still watered a bit at the end. :bigtear:
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That was the episode I have been waiting all season for. Yes, the climax of the book was my favorite part. I'm so edgy.

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I agree with your under-the-spoiler opinions, ES. I was the same way about that, right down to the quasi-regret.

Meanwhile, I'm still having fun reading the non-book-reader reactions to last week's episode and this. I've realized, over on TWoP at least, book readers are a pedantic no-fun bunch.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:55 PM
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So, it's over for now

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Yeah, I agree that


Still, my hat is off to HBO. Fantastic work, and thoroughly enjoyable from first to last.

I can't wait until next season, and hope they keep up this level of quality.
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In conclusion, this episode passed way too quickly and I can't believe I have to wait a year before the next one. :hissyfit:
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I have no idea what you're talking about. :shiftier:
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In conclusion, this episode passed way too quickly and I can't believe I have to wait a year before the next one. :hissyfit:
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I can understand the cursed shameful imp thing, but thinking he's stupid is a whole other bag of hammers. It's so distinctly counterfactual.
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Well, as one might gather from Tyrion's tales of childhood and teen-hood shenanigans, he wasn't always the sharp-eyed and sharper-tongued rogue you see before you now. I don't recall how explicitly it is laid out, but I also picked up the impression that Tyrion and his dear old dad have had as little contact with one another as they could possibly manage for quite some time.

So, it is entirely possible that, despite Tywin's shrewdness, he simply hadn't been around his youngest son long enough to recognize the impressive wit he had honed in lieu of the sword he couldn't swing.
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