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HPV is the number one cause of cervical cancer, so the HPV vaccine prevents most cervical cancer which could save 3000+ lives a year.

Also At least 50% of sexually active people will have genital HPV at some time in their lives.~CDC

So since we can prevent 50% of sexually active people getting a disease, and since most people become sexually active at some point in their lives, why wouldn't we make that mandatory like we do polio and other vaccines?

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Old 10-16-2011, 05:56 AM
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That would make sense. But wouldn't you rather than teenagers be afraid of cancer and thus choose not to have sex?

(Also, currently it's only recommended for girls, although HPV has also been linked to throat cancer and anal cancer, which really suggests that boys should be vaccinated too, since most of them will engage in oral sex, and some of them will also engage in anal sex)
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:40 PM
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http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/HPV

What are the risk factors for HPV infection and cervical cancer?

Having many sexual partners is a risk factor for HPV infection. Nevertheless, most HPV infections go away on their own without causing any type of abnormality. However, even among women who develop abnormal cervical cell changes because of persistent infection with high-risk HPV types, the chances of developing cervical cancer are small, even if the abnormal cells are not treated. As a general rule, the more severe the abnormal cell changes, the greater the risk of cancer.

Whether an HPV-infected woman develops cervical cancer appears to depend on a variety of factors acting together with infection by high-risk HPV types. Factors that may increase the risk of cervical cancer in women persistently infected with high-risk HPV types include smoking and having many children (5).
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:43 PM
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Have you guys taken the vaccine?
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That would make sense. But wouldn't you rather than teenagers be afraid of cancer and thus choose not to have sex?

(Also, currently it's only recommended for girls, although HPV has also been linked to throat cancer and anal cancer, which really suggests that boys should be vaccinated too, since most of them will engage in oral sex, and some of them will also engage in anal sex)
Kiddo's pediatrician routinely vaccinates both genders for HPV
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4000 women died of cervical cancer in 2007

I had cryosurgery for cervical dysplasia when I was in my 20's, and it was the most painful medical treatment I have had to date-including donating a kidney.

Also, HPV is usually passed from person to person during sexual contact such as vaginal intercourse, anal intercourse, or oral sex. But it also can be transmitted by any skin-to-skin contact with an infected person. Once established, the virus is capable of spreading from one part of the body to another, including the cervix.WebMD

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:56 PM
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That would make sense. But wouldn't you rather than teenagers be afraid of cancer and thus choose not to have sex?

(Also, currently it's only recommended for girls, although HPV has also been linked to throat cancer and anal cancer, which really suggests that boys should be vaccinated too, since most of them will engage in oral sex, and some of them will also engage in anal sex)
Kiddo's pediatrician routinely vaccinates both genders for HPV
Making a choice is different than government forcing by law.
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That would make sense. But wouldn't you rather than teenagers be afraid of cancer and thus choose not to have sex?

(Also, currently it's only recommended for girls, although HPV has also been linked to throat cancer and anal cancer, which really suggests that boys should be vaccinated too, since most of them will engage in oral sex, and some of them will also engage in anal sex)
Kiddo's pediatrician routinely vaccinates both genders for HPV
Making a choice is different than government forcing by law.
Vaccinations of all kinds are required by state laws (in all 50 states), unless you apply for an exemption. All 50 states offer medical exemptions, most offer religious exemptions, and some offer philosophical exemptions. Informed consent rules apply to vaxing, and parents must sign every time.

Vaccinations help prevent deadly diseases, I see no reason to treat any one of them differently. If a state makes it mandatory, like any other vax, and one can apply for exemption just as with any other vax, then what's the problem?
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We are going to have to trust that Big Pharma is not in the pocket of government.
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Isn't it the other way round, and why should we do that?
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Isn't it the other way round, and why should we do that?
No, that is the right way around.

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Godwin by implication ITT.
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What do you think conservatism means, JEROME?
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Anita Perry stated that her husband Rick is the only True Conservative, so is Rick Perry's stupid shit okay for this thread?
Using executive orders to force non medically needed vaccines is not conservative.
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And you are both tedious and stupid. It's a constant source of amazement to me that you manage to avoid shorting out your keyboard by drooling on it. What do you do? Cocoon it in cling wrap?
He's just playing you for the lulz, Null. Pretend it's Chuck and maybe you'll see how funny the joke is.

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I've got a better idea, Null. Why don't you start half a dozen callout threads in which you demand that the entire Free Thought Talk Forum and Chat Emporium membership rise up and hold JEROME to account for his behavior, for great internet justice?
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maybe you'll see how funny the joke is.
Hello mickthinks!

Do you find the idea of sexual contact with 13 year old girls to be "funny?" (PRO-TIP: no matter how you answer - or don't answer - I will get the [thanks]. Privilege ftw!)

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THE PRIVILEGED FEW GET ALL THE [THANKS] THROUGH A RIGGED SYSTEM THAT SHOWERS [THANKS] UPON THEM WHILE I DO ALL THE HARD WORK OF TIRELESSLY POINTING OUT THE VARIOUS SOCIAL DAMAGES CAUSED BY LAUGHTER ON THE INTERNET.

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THE PRIVILEGED FEW GET ALL THE [THANKS] THROUGH A RIGGED SYSTEM THAT SHOWERS [THANKS] UPON THEM WHILE I DO ALL THE HARD WORK OF TIRELESSLY POINTING OUT THE VARIOUS SOCIAL DAMAGES CAUSED BY LAUGHTER ON THE INTERNET.

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There'd be no need if he didn't have so many to defend him.
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And you are both tedious and stupid. It's a constant source of amazement to me that you manage to avoid shorting out your keyboard by drooling on it. What do you do? Cocoon it in cling wrap?
I cannot believe anyone is still interacting with Obvious Troll.
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Name calling is the typical retort by ______ to ideas which can not be countered rationally.
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I cannot believe anyone is still interacting with Obvious Troll.
Yeah, I know. But a periodic reminder of why it's a total waste of time to discuss anything with him is salutary.

I still talk to creationists too. :shrug:
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Here is Turd Blossom scoring an own goal for us.

Karl Rove: Herman Cain May Not Be 'Up To The Task' | ThinkProgress
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Isn't it the other way round, and why should we do that?
No, that is the right way around.

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Great. That's all we need: a troll that is a Nazi history nazi.
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