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Fox paid $400m for the World Cup and now the USA aren't in it | The Independent

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Not entirely sure what to make of this:

Zinke: Taking Down Confederate Statues Will Upset 'Native Indians' – Talking Points Memo

lol @ 'interview with Breitbart' tho.
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A reminder that purported conversations that sound too perfect to be true probably aren't:

Robert Reich, Quote Doctor

Recently saw this link. I've thought that Reich's supposed conversations he's had with Republicans and others sounded contrived as shit before, but according to this, you can't even trust them to be paraphrases.

On the other hand, sometimes the audio comes out and shows that it really did happen...

House Majority Leader to colleagues "I think Putin pays Trump"
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Federal employees allegedly brought in Puerto Ricans to provide them a 'spa day' while doing disaster relief: report | Raw Story

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At first I was all "That's p mad about letting Puerto Ricans have a nice moment amidst their disaster." I was confused by the indefinite "them" is all.

Now I'm properly mad.
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Somalia: At least 230 dead in Mogadishu blast - BBC News
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Kobe Steel says 500 companies - including Boeing - got its falsely certified metals - Autoblog
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Retailers Remove Anne Frank Halloween Costume After Backlash

Who thought this was a good idea in the first place?
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Who thought this was a good idea in the first place?
Maybe the same person that designed this top for Zara a few years ago?

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Old 10-17-2017, 05:39 PM
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Retailers Remove Anne Frank Halloween Costume After Backlash

Who thought this was a good idea in the first place?
Er ... a costume that looks like the kind of thing Dutch girls might have worn in the 1940s is interpreted as an Anne Frank Halloween costume? Why is anyone giving any credence to this clickbaity shit?
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In the description, though, it's called a "WWII evacuee costume."
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Doesn't look particularly Dutch, probably based on a movie about Anne Frank?
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In the description, though, it's called a "WWII evacuee costume."
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Doesn't look particularly Dutch, probably based on a movie about Anne Frank?
So, of the description "Anne Frank Halloween Costume", only the "costume" part has any substance at all ...

The whole story is based on a malicious fabrication that Time and, it seems :ff: is giving credence.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:32 AM
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TIL what these are:



I lie. I learned about those from the Paddington movie.
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In the description, though, it's called a "WWII evacuee costume."
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Doesn't look particularly Dutch, probably based on a movie about Anne Frank?
So, of the description "Anne Frank Halloween Costume", only the "costume" part has any substance at all ...

The whole story is based on a malicious fabrication that Time and, it seems :ff: is giving credence.
I totally agree that it's sloppy, and I think Time (or maybe someone they're quoting) used Anne Frank as a synecdoche, but "WWII evacuee" is a bad idea for a costume, too. Without the description, I would never have recognized it as that, though. Maybe old-timey scout or schoolgirl or something. The tag makes it obvious that it was built into the design, though, and the description wasn't just an afterthought.

It is kind of outrage clickbait, though, and I do agree that sometimes, shitty things can happen and maybe the entire internet doesn't need to launch all its fury at it every time. It deserves a "Hey, bad idea. Stop that," but one thing I've been trying really hard to do is to stop giving views to things like this, where it's really just a single person doing something stupid or shitty. I don't always succeed at ignoring them, but I'm trying.
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"It's sloppy" is so far from "it's a malicious fabrication" that to to call it agreement is to stretch the idea to breaking. And synecdoche just doesn't work like that.

Judge: You have been found guilty of child molesting.
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OK, so I don't agree with you, then. But synecdoche is a rhetorical device, not a legal one, and that's exactly how it works. (I mean my example is, not yours.)
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Of course synecdoche isn't a legal device. (lol that you thought my example was supposed to be of a plausible court scene) My point is that it doesn't work in the context of ethical judgement. Just as kissing one's partner isn't child molestation, no matter how many poets and authors use "child" as synecdoche for humans of all ages in their literary work, neither is a facsimile of a child's travelling outfit circa 1940 an egregious reference to any holocaust victim, no matter how many times * song- and playwrights have used "Anne Frank" as synecdoche for WWII evacuees.

Just because there are such things as literary tropes, doesn't mean that we must give free passes to all dishonesty, however blatent. And this Anne Frank costume bullshit is blatant.


* And that number of times is, I am pretty sure, so close to zero that you will not find a single example anywhere on any web or web-type product or service.
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Polling day here in kiwiland. Earliest results started to come in. I'd love to see a change of government, but I'm not hopeful even though it's going to be closer than it looked a couple of months ago.
So apparently even though the Tories got close to a majority of seats, they won't be in government after all, and Labour will lead the government.

That sounds good to me. But is it bad that the NZ First party is in government? I don't know much about them, but the name sounds a bit "alt-right-ish".
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Why Airbus’s tie-up with Bombardier is so damaging for Boeing - The Economist

Also reinforces the duopoly, that's in the article too.

Will giggle at this tho:

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And by pushing for tariffs on the C-Series, Boeing has annoyed customers, from Delta to the governments of Canada and Britain, which are threatening to tear up future military contracts. News of the tie-up was greeted warmly not only in Canada but also in Northern Ireland, where the C-Series’ wings are made. The Democratic Unionist Party, the province’s largest party, which supports the government of Theresa May, the British prime minister, said it was “thrilled” with the deal.

For Boeing, “the wounds are self-inflicted”, says Adam Pilarski, the former chief economist of McDonnell-Douglas, now part of Boeing. If Boeing had let the Canadian minnow alone, after all, the C-Series would probably have sold only 300 or so planes. But now Boeing’s tariffs have destroyed the C-Series’ value and handed it to its rival for free. Airbus wants to sell up to 6,000 of the planes over the next 20 years.
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So apparently even though the Tories got close to a majority of seats, they won't be in government after all, and Labour will lead the government.

That sounds good to me. But is it bad that the NZ First party is in government? I don't know much about them, but the name sounds a bit "alt-right-ish".
Yup, bit of a surprise. I'm pleased about the change of govt, which is holding out some promises of action on climate change, child poverty, house affordability and so on. Also, first PM who is younger than me! Of course my routine cynicism about what they'll manage to achieve is already kicking in.

I'm very much not a fan of NZ First, but they're not alt-right. More old-right, they're a mix of social conservatism and economic nationalism, but tend more to the nostalgic than the fully toxic. They have had a pretty shitty line on immigration, and unfortunately the Labour Party (main coalition partner) has also played a bit to this particular populist note in recent times. So we'll have to watch them on that stuff. I expect the Greens, who are sort-of in and sort-of not in the government with these two parties will hold the line there.

Overall this coalition is going to be the most critical of neoliberalism we've had in some 30 years, in rhetoric at least.
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