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Old 01-21-2016, 12:29 AM
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Default God’s decree. No punishment after death for men.

God’s decree. No punishment after death for men.

A good God must be a huge hearted Universalist God. If not then he is a satanic loser. All are equal before God. If not then God would not be righteous. God forbid.

Gnostic Scriptures and Fragments: Epiphanes - On Righteousness

It must then follow that there is no punishment of man after death. Intelligently, God creates all for the best of all possible ends. This is also a natural law.

Only a loser of a God would have a heaven and a hell. Only a poor shepherd would lose a huge part of his flock.

Is your God a Universalist God?

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God’s decree. No punishment after death for men.

A good God must be a huge hearted Universalist God. If not then he is a satanic loser. All are equal before God. If not then God would not be righteous. God forbid.

Gnostic Scriptures and Fragments: Epiphanes - On Righteousness

It must then follow that there is no punishment of man after death. Intelligently, God creates all for the best of all possible ends. This is also a natural law.

Only a loser of a God would have a heaven and a hell. Only a poor shepherd would lose a huge part of his flock.

Is your God a Universalist God?

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The more I consider it, I am coming to the conclusion that God does not condemn or punish anyone, each individual will get the reward or punishment they believe they deserve. There are a few exceptions, that I am confident that others will point out. Hell or Hades will be more like a purgatory where the sin and evil is purged from the soul till it is fit for Heaven, but this is determined more by the individual than God.

And my 2nd post as well,

Perhaps seeking forgiveness is a factor, if a 'genocidal leader' doesn't seek forgiveness for what others have judged as wrong, perhaps God has judged it wrong as well, and lack of forgiveness might be enough to condemn one to purgatory till that person is purged of sin and evil.

At first I was puzzled when I saw your post here and didn't see my reply, then I went onto the other forum and realized what had happened.
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Old 01-21-2016, 05:54 AM
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What a disgustingly sexist text. Should we not keep this atavistic, inherently anti-democratic screed out of western democracies? How can we expect anything but gross misogyny from a belief based on such a sexist and undemocratic text? It describes women as property, to be used either as private property or to be shared in a community, but property in both case.
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You guys see, though?

This is that thing where, the stupider and more ineffectual a given man is, the more likely he is to assume that he is smarter than you.

It can be really maddening sometimes when it's someone with any kind of influence, but when it's just some random dingleberry like this guy, it's mostly just funny.
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I take umbrage at that, sir. I picked up a cat dingleberry the other day and it was very effective at sticking to the bottom of my shoe and making me clean the floor for a solid five minutes.
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Old 01-22-2016, 11:13 AM
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Finland knows how to deal with racists.

Finnish clowns mock anti-immigrant patrols by surrounding them in song - Trending - CBC News
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So I think the real question becomes, Should Canada and the U.S. tolerate an intolerant Gnosticism?
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Do Canadians need this explained:
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The Loldiers, a portmanteau of Soldier and LOL,
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Anyway, so they're against furriners but they worship a furrin god? Don't the Fins have ancient gods of their own?
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Also: it has been done before: Neo Nazi Immigration Protest Met With Clown Counter-Protest

Clowns Kicked KKK Asses

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Anyway, so they're against furriners but they worship a furrin god? Don't the Fins have ancient gods of their own?
Finns :tsktsk:

True, but they're not all that different and could be seen as different perceptions of the same gods. Ukko is basically Thor, and Väinämöinen is basically Odin (just takes more time to pronounce) - not to mention Gandalf.

* JoeP assumes everyone has read the Kalevala.
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There were two protests today in Tampere, one by the Loldiers of Odinin and one by some "Close the Borders" group, and the police were attempting to keep the two separate. Apparently "one clown" was detained for trying to get trough the police barrier, but I don't know which side they are referring to.
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I bought a copy of the Kalevala some months ago but I was saving it until the weather became more appropriate :blank:
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You mean until the lakes froze solid and the nights were 20 hours long?
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Ukko?
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Remember to pronounce the long k.
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Remember to pronounce the long k.
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Random dingleberry?
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No I still think he's ignoring this thread.
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No I still think he's ignoring this thread.

Isn't that S.O.P. for crackpots, when a valid refutation is presented, ignore it till something else comes along.
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