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Can you offer some alternatives?
No, because I really have no clue what it is you're asking for an "alternative" or a "solution" to.

An alternative to police brutality? An alternative to policing entirely? Something else?

If you clarify your question, then I'll be in a position to give you my thoughts.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:46 PM
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I still don't see any kicking around, calling you a jerk, etc. Merely disagreement, of a type extremely civil by Intarweb standards.
I think that the consensus is that I'm alone on this nuance, Sock.

As an aside, I never actually claimed someone called me a jerk, but that is usually the intuitive moniker for the "odd man out" generating tedium for contrasting thoughts.

The overall point is that what was once an mere off-handed comment, became the trampoline for further discussion leading to the "thanks" counted conclusion that the entire tangent is tedious to the minds at work here.

Definitely civil, I agree, and as lagniappe Doctor X and I are now fast friends, so there is that.

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Can you offer some alternatives?
No, because I really have no clue what it is you're asking for an "alternative" or a "solution" to.

An alternative to police brutality? An alternative to policing entirely? Something else?

If you clarify your question, then I'll be in a position to give you my thoughts.
The solution to the "justice system" we have now.

How can it be made better, more efficient, etc.?
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The solution to the "justice system" we have now.

How can it be made better, more efficient, etc.?
In that case, I don't think that the justice system we have can be made better, so I would advocate abolishing it in favor of some sort of restorative justice model.

As for the supposed inefficiency of the present system, my view is that its inefficiency should be encouraged. The less people they can shove through the meat grinder in a given period of time, the better for the people. Anyway, it's still efficient enough that the U.S. has the highest per capita incarceration rate of any nation on the planet. China bests us in sheer numbers, but loses when ranked by its number of prisoners as a proportion of the population.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:57 PM
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While it entertains itself, back to the topic:

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Y'all better hush before he brings out the big guns.

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Old 07-31-2010, 12:24 AM
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The solution to the "justice system" we have now.

How can it be made better, more efficient, etc.?
In that case, I don't think that the justice system we have can be made better, so I would advocate abolishing it in favor of some sort of restorative justice model.

As for the supposed inefficiency of the present system, my view is that its inefficiency should be encouraged. The less people they can shove through the meat grinder in a given period of time, the better for the people. Anyway, it's still efficient enough that the U.S. has the highest per capita incarceration rate of any nation on the planet. China bests us in sheer numbers, but loses when ranked by its number of prisoners as a proportion of the population.
School me.

What is "some sort of restorative justice model"?

Show the workings if you don't mind, I'm interested.
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How does one go about doing that, if not by doing that?

Internal Affairs
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School me.

What is "some sort of restorative justice model"?

Show the workings if you don't mind, I'm interested.
Restorative justice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're better off going to that site or this one, because I cannot detail "the workings" of all restorative justice programs. That's actually the point: instead of a top-down, official system imposed by and for the benefit of the area ruling class, the people themselves decide which issues they want to see resolved by a restorative justice system and the manner in which the restitution is to take place.

This has been used extensively in some areas, particularly those where the community no longer trusts the cops and official courts (and with good reason).

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The culture needs to change. Bad cops need to be considered an aberration and disposed of rather than covered for and protected. That can only be done from the inside.
How does one go about doing that, if not by doing that?

Internal Affairs

Good question. Any group's culture is a product of the people in it, it's not imposed by higher ups, but it can be greatly influenced by them.

What do you think the culture is in Sheriff Arpaio's department? How do they interact with each other and with their community? How about Adrian Schoolcraft's precinct, a culture where an officer with some valid concerns regarding interacting with the community is harassed and locked up in a mental ward? What is the culture of a department where a cop watches his partner tase a bedridden old lady or developmentally disabled child rather than putting a stop to it?

What about the best departments in the country? What is their culture? How do they view each other and the people they serve and protect? How did that come about? What can be learned from them?
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Officer shoots and kills 35-pound dog that approaches her on its owner's property.

seriously, a thirty-five-pound dog is a serious threat? gtfo
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More police fail from Florida: a 17-year-old teen on a bike is Tasered, then run over, resulting in his death. It should probably go without saying that the teen was black.
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More police fail from Florida: a 17-year-old teen on a bike is Tasered, then run over, resulting in his death. It should probably go without saying that the teen was black.
That is a very disturbing story.

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Officer shoots and kills 35-pound dog that approaches her on its owner's property.

seriously, a thirty-five-pound dog is a serious threat? gtfo
It could rip your face off in the blink of an eye. We owned a 32 pound Border Collie, we know these things.
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Arrested for saying stupid shit.

Not sure if this is really worth a big FUCK YOU to the police, but damn it's really fucking stupid. There must be more to the story, it can't be all there is
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Charges have been dropped against a cop caught having sex with cows.

A Sacramento police officer is under investigation for falsifying multiple DUI reports. The same cop was earlier reprimanded for taking out his gun during an off-duty dispute.

Here's another woman put in restraints during labour.

Another puppycide incident. In this case the cops got a search warrant for a suspected pot dealer who they claim was spotted at the house (did they raid the local gas station, restaurants and all his friends' houses too? Sounds like it). The cops claim the dog charged at them and the shot was fired in self-defence. The owners claim the dog was fenced in on the porch. The shell casing was found outside the porch.

Another, possibly even more outrageous puppycide came when a cop shot a dog at an off-leash dog park. Who was playing with the cops' dog. The cop claimed the animals were fighting, but the local animal control was unable to locate any evidence of scratch or bite marks on either dog. As an added bonus, the cop isn't being charged with anything. I'm sure that comes as a shock to you too.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse," unless, of course, you're a cop or a prosecutor.
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Charges have been dropped against a cop caught having sex with cows.
I think this should be in the other fuck the police thread...
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Australian Judge: It's okay to tell police officers to to fuck off. Defendant freed, his legal expenses may have to be paid by police (try that in the U.S.) because the cop was over-reacting.
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