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11-26-2023, 11:05 AM
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Re: Philolsophy
Weinersmith’s humour sometimes seems to flail, and never more than it has here. “Wouldn’t it be funny if God and heaven were shamelessly sexist!” Well … no, not really.
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11-26-2023, 02:25 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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11-27-2023, 02:34 AM
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Re: Philolsophy
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Weinersmith’s humour sometimes seems to flail, and never more than it has here. “Wouldn’t it be funny if God and heaven were shamelessly sexist!” Well … no, not really.
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Seems more like comedically pointing out a problem with the common "judge people by the standards of their time" attitude.
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11-27-2023, 03:05 AM
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Re: Philolsophy
Do we come into the conversation with an expectation about the nature of the subject matter, which expectation is then surprisingly subverted by the last line? If so, it's probably actually sorta funny, because that's basically how humor works.
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11-27-2023, 03:54 AM
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Re: Philolsophy
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11-27-2023, 06:55 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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Weinersmith’s humour sometimes seems to flail, and never more than it has here. “Wouldn’t it be funny if God and heaven were shamelessly sexist!” Well … no, not really.
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Seems more like comedically pointing out a problem with the common "judge people by the standards of their time" attitude.
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But from where does that comedic alchemy arise if not the introduction of a misogynist God and a heaven for men only?
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11-27-2023, 08:41 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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Weinersmith’s humour sometimes seems to flail, and never more than it has here. “Wouldn’t it be funny if God and heaven were shamelessly sexist!” Well … no, not really.
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Seems more like comedically pointing out a problem with the common "judge people by the standards of their time" attitude.
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But from where does that comedic alchemy arise if not the introduction of a misogynist God and a heaven for men only?
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The “misogyny “ of God arose when Eve fucked us by manipulating her man.
And Satan is a woman by the way.
My first sentiment I say in jest but definitely not the second.
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11-27-2023, 09:42 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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But from where does that comedic alchemy arise if not the introduction of a misogynist God and a heaven for men only?
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That's part of the comedy, but not all of it.
I wouldn't describe the premise of Blazing Saddles as simply "wouldn't it be funny if a town in a western was really racist towards a black guy?" There's more going on.
Fair enough if you have a sense of outrage against injustice that over-rides any comic effect you personally feel. That's certainly why some comedy doesn't work for me, but I don't miss the intended joke, and I understand that the balance might sit elsewhere for others.
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11-28-2023, 01:09 AM
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Re: Philolsophy
I think "wouldn't it be funny if God were sexist", well as an actual thing happening, not especially, but as a subversion of the trope that God is morally wise, it's pretty funny!
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12-16-2023, 10:43 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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12-17-2023, 07:41 AM
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Re: Philolsophy
OK that's good
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12-17-2023, 05:49 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
there's a tumblr post about how if you start out shipping two characters, but then replace them with AU versions and then change the characters, is it still the same ship?
and my personal contribution:
take the "ship of theseus" question, only, instead of a ship, it's an axe, and instead of theseus, it's my grandfather. is this now the same philosophical question?
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12-17-2023, 06:51 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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take the "ship of theseus" question, only, instead of a ship, it's an axe, and instead of theseus, it's my grandfather. is this now the same philosophical question?
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I'm guessing the axe thing is first the blade is replaced, then the shaft.
This reminds me of an IBM pricing deal (that I was told about when I was working at IBM so it must be true) - instead of buying a whole new mainframe, which would be a capital expense and taxed a certain way, it could be done as an "upgrade" (replacement) of the case, followed by an "upgrade" (replacement) of the internals, each time retaining the same serial number and being classed as operational expenditure. The mainframe of Theseus.
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12-17-2023, 08:13 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
I once visited the engineering works of a steam railway preservation society. For several years, they had been building an all-new replica of a once-famous, but long-ago scrapped, steam locomotive.
One day, a visitor turned up with an old steam pressure gauge (a sort of clock-faced instrument that mounts in the cab of the loco, and displays the boiler pressure). It had been fitted to several locomotives during its life (they were regularly removed for calibration, servicing and recertification), but the accompanying calibration history logbook showed that at one time it had been fitted to the locomotive of which the replica was being built.
The engineering works manager had called a group meeting on the factory floor.
"Congratulations team!", he said, "We're no longer just building a replica - this project has now become a restoration!"
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12-17-2023, 11:57 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
One pressure meter and ten tons of bondo. Choo choo, motherfucker.
ETA: Oh yes, this reminds me. Send Cep any Pokemon postcards from railroad locations.
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01-09-2024, 09:45 PM
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Re: Philolsophy
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