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Old 02-20-2009, 01:18 PM
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Her style is totally unlike Banksy's. I don't know why they have to label her like that. She's much more Pippi Longstocking, if you ask me, and she's awesome.:thumbup:
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:24 PM
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I don't know why they have to label her like that.

I think it's because that kind of bullshit is their stock-in-trade, and the public reward them quite highly for it.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:35 PM
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I'm not sure how much reward is out there to be had these days. All the newspapers in the US, at least, are teetering on the brink of oblivion. :shrug:

I've been browsing Solveig's Flickr photostream this morning, and she really is remarkably talented. I can't believe she gave a guy a tattoo at 10 years old. Is that even legal? :damn:



This is my favorite, especially accompanied by her awesome explanation:



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I wanted to do a picture of two skeletons that have a hair salon called 'scare cuts' the skeleton on the left is not very good and is always messing up the hair cuts. the one on the right is the boss and drops the cups of tea when he sees what the other one has done. The dude with the glasses is cross because he is late for work as he only wanted a trim. The girl has accidently been turned into a blond amy winehouse. The black man likes his haircut though.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:54 PM
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I'm not sure how much reward is out there to be had these days. All the newspapers in the US, at least, are teetering on the brink of oblivion.

That ain't the issue, liv. The issue is how do you get from the bottom to the top as a journalist? Is it by nurturing a reputation for presenting plain truth or will you generally get there much quicker by showing a knack for adding entertaining spin?

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Old 02-20-2009, 05:07 PM
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I guess that depends what you mean by the top. If you mean name recognition, being entertaining is probably important, but I'm not sure it's a direct means to the end. In the US, tabloid journalists don't have anything like the name recognition of the more somber political types.

In any case, I guess "so-and-so is the next X" is a pretty standard trope. It's annoying, especially when the communality is as tenuous as "the next well-known graffiti artist", but then again I proposed a character analogy myself with Pippi.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:26 PM
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I guess that depends what you mean by the top. I am using "the top" as a shorthand to indicate the highest levels of reward.

It's annoying ... To you maybe—you know it's bullshit. But the journalist isn't writing for people like you who know about art. Does it matter to the vast majority of readers that they are being fed bullshit in the guise of news? Does it matter to you if a lot of the stuff you read and see and hear is also bullshit on topics that you don't know well enough to worry about? It matters to me.
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Well, the highest levels of reward is subjective. I know when I took journalism classes in college in the early 90's, the highest level of reward was to achieve what Woodward and Bernstein did with Watergate: ie, through dogged insistence and against the odds break an enormously important story with major political and cultural impact. If that's your goal, then spinning bullshit isn't likely to get you there.

I'm not sure what matters to the vast majority of readers. Most people, in my experience, don't enjoy being snowed. Perhaps the drastic decline in newspaper readership is indicative of a loss of confidence in the quality of reportage, among other things.

Then again, even when people read papers like crazy said papers were packed to the gills with nonsense, propaganda, bullshit and spin. Overtly so, in fact.
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I've been browsing Solveig's Flickr photostream this morning, and she really is remarkably talented. I can't believe she gave a guy a tattoo at 10 years old. Is that even legal? :damn:


Love the tattoo. I think it's a grey area, I've heard of tattoo artists' kids giving the artists tattoos, but I've never heard of them giving tattoos to clients. They can design all the tattoos they want, but they shouldn't be giving them.


On second thought, I think maybe child labor laws would come into effect. But who knows.
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Love the tattoo. I think it's a grey area, I've heard of tattoo artists' kids giving the artists tattoos, but I've never heard of them giving tattoos to clients. They can design all the tattoos they want, but they shouldn't be giving them.
Right. Why not make a stencil of the girl's design then have a professional draw the actual blood? She mentioned in the caption that her eyes blurred because the needle made her hand shake so much. Erm... Scareh!

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On second thought, I think maybe child labor laws would come into effect. But who knows.
I doubt they would for a one-shot deal like that, but I don't know either.

On another note, do you think the rainbow swirl in the background was her work too or just the outlined beast?
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The rainbow looks older. That would be mighty fine shading for someone who has little practice with a needle. I have to give her props though, those lines on the outline are straight.

Body mod companies or parlors are strange beasts, at least in the US. I know here in Georgia they're virtually unregulated once you get past the zoning issues. So a kid tattooing would go under the radar pretty well here unless someone made a stink. It's up to the artist or shop owner's integrety most of the time.
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While reveling in her awesomeness (and the awesomeness of the name Solveig), I noticed the fake LV in the background of the tattoo picture. :confused:
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... the highest level of reward was to achieve what Woodward and Bernstein did with Watergate:

Peer recognition for achievement is a kind of reward too, of course, and the confusion between fulfilment and recompense might make it difficult for you to understand my point about the commercial pressure to misinform. Especially if you've forgotten how the discussion started:
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