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All right, well I was away when this thread went on and so could not take part. However, I have just watched Blink and am a-scared. Moffat is some kind of genius.

I am eagerly looking forward to season four, though, as I think Donna Noble does a good job of taking the Doctor down a peg, which he badly needs. I love Martha, though, and was glad to see her in Torchwood.

Talk more about this show with me, please?

Or I'll be bothered.
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Bewitched, bothered and bewildered? BBC America just started showing Season 4. I've been meaning to watch again because SciFi cut it pretty badly, so I may start tonight. On the other hand, I have Claws of Axos, with Jon Pertwee and the original Master, waiting for me at home courtesy of Netflix so I may watch that instead.

I do think that Donna shaped up to be one of the best companions ever. I'd definitely put her in my top 5 with Sarah Jane, Jo, Leela and I don't know who else. I've never thought much about it before. I thought Rose was great with Eccleston, but that she had no chemistry with Tennant. I liked the first Romana, but then I also liked Harry a lot. It's hard to pick a fifth.

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I rather liked Rose with Eccleston- but thought the whole I lurve Her/Him line detracted, rather than added to the Tennant story. I would also put Donna on the Faves list - along with Mickey (mostly because of the development from scared to doing what needs doing), and of course Sarah Jane - who until Donna was my absolute fave, now she has to share top spot. I also liked both Romanas.

I want to go back and see the old ones - some are at the library. The child is not so much into them as he is the new ones, which I attribute to the pacing and level of special effects. It's funny to think of what we used to see and enjoy as "primitive", but I also think it had a lot of charm - not in the patronizing, "oh, look, they try so hard" kind of way. More in the "work with me and we'll suspend disbelief together" kind of way. I have long been a Tom Baker gal, and probably always will be. I did like Pertwee, but hated Peter Davidson for some reason.

The other thing about Doctor Who while growing up was that we got them about 5 years behind, it seemed, on PBS so a lot of what I remember as being 80's style was actually 70's-made.
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A couple asides .... William Hartnell was the first Doctor.

Also one the reasons why Tom Baker is a favourite Doctor, is that Douglas Adams was a script writer for three seasons.
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That's right! I'd forgotten about that.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:53 AM
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I had given up by Davidson's time, but I was never thrilled with what little I did see.

Claws of Axos was very different than what I had seen of Pertwee before. He always had a bit of a cranky edge, but here he was quite the jerk.


Watching it did remind me of two important things. First, that Roger Delgado was absolutely brilliant as The Master and none of the others has ever lived up to him. Second, I was reminded of just how much I love Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart. I don't know if he really counts as a companion, but if he is I have the last of my top five. The Brigadier is simply brilliant and I do wish they would reflect that, or have someone half as cool in the new UNIT. I also wish they would bring in Benton or Yates, much higher up in rank than they used to be. That would be lovely continuity. I heard once that Nicholas Courtney had written an autobiography. I think I need to track that down.
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Yah, I've been surprised by the lack of UNIT in the new show - it seems a passel of them got offed by the Slitheen early on. Doesn't Martha Jones work for them, though? I think they mentioned that in one of the Torchwoods.

Jo was adorable!
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One thing that may have led to UNIT being downplayed in the new show, was that the real world UN has tried to stop the use of its name by fictional agencies. IIRC, the meaning of the UNIT acronym has been changed due to this. Wiki: UNified Intelligence Taskforce

I don't have cable and haven't seen the last season(s) but what I've read about the treatment of UNIT hasn't really impressed me much - detainment, respect for human rights etc... The constant reimagining of things as darker and more realistic in fiction is one of my pet peeves. It bugs me when truly good characters and organizations from escapist fiction get redone as dark and sinister. If the writer needs a proxy for 'War on Terror' or whatever, fine, but leave other people's creations alone.

OT: Besides the low quality of writing and high quantity of hype, this is one of things that drove me out of comics in '90s. Dark Knight Returns was good in its way, but it really screwed the industry up.
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Actually, I was struck by how similar the old and new UNITs were. Both running around with guns planning a military solution while The Doctor sniped from the sidelines about their "shoot first, ask questions later" approach. I swore they might have used some of the same script in the Sontaran episode of (new) series four.
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This is from the Wiki page on UNIT and is pretty much what I was referring to, again with the caveat that I haven't seen the episodes of the last year or two:

"Beginning in the later Torchwood episode "Fragments" UNIT is depicted as having little regard for law or human rights. After a young Toshiko Sato becomes unwillingly involved with terrorists, she is captured by UNIT soldiers and subject to an indefinite term of imprisonment without trial, until she is rescued by Jack Harkness and recruited to Torchwood."
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I have got the fourth season. You know, I like Donna more and more. And Catherine Tate is doing a rather god job of both funny (to be expected), and a rather subtle job with the more emotional elements than I expected. I like their relationship best of all the new companions.
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Okay, so in season two one of the best lines is
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Doctor Who actress Elisabeth Sladen dies
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That's just sad. She looked so vivacious in her recent appearances of the show.
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I grew up watching the Tom Baker era of the show being played on PBS. Sarah Jane was the definitive companion in my opinion.
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So sad. Sarah Jane was the first companion I saw on Dr. Who.
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RIP Sarah Jane... :tremble:

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Despite the pointless homage to the Chronic(what?)cles of Narnia in this year's Xmas special, Bill Bailey's part really was fucking hilarious.


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Come to really respect Bill Bailey's work.

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Bailey (and Simon Pegg) earned my everlasting interest with Spaced/Black Books. If either of them are in something, it's worth at least an investigation imo.
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That exactly. I saw Spaced first I think online, then got the wonderful Black Books. Phenomenal stuff.

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I first saw him in a program with stand-up comedians. He would play the guitar and sing silly songs and tell jokes. Then he was one of the regulars on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, a music quiz that was mostly a joke-vehicle for host Mark Lamarr, Bill and the other regular whose name I forgot. They usually had musicians as guests. It was a pretty funny show for a while.
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