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Old 06-28-2012, 04:34 PM
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Gee, I wonder if anybody got a screenshot of it!

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Still no link to the opinion. I wonder if CNN's SCOTUS producer (described as "Supreme Court guru" in some CNN tweet) will resign because this very amusing fuckup. They already whitewashed their live blog.

ETA: Opinion. It's a whopper.
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Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:02 PM
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Interesting.

INTRADE, the online predictive betting / marketing site, places bets on how likely certain political or economic events are. This is an economic prediction market, operating under the hypothesis that the aggregate decisions / viewpoints of a large group of people are the most accurate predictor of any given outcome.

Up to 30 minutes before the announcement, INTRADE was prediting a 70-71% chance of this being overturned. Oops.

I've often been suspicious of the underlying hypothesis behind INTRADE, and whether or not INTRADE was actually sampling random opinions or had devolved into a libertarian polling device.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:03 PM
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This just in from the Internet Commission on Butthurt Events Tracking: There is a major event of Internet Butthurt occurring centered in the Eastern Half of North America. Preliminary reports indicate this is a case of CLASS ONE - VOLCANIC BUTTHURT. Readers are urged to take immediate precautions against this major event. This is not a drill. REPEAT: There is a major event of Internet Butthurt occurring centered in the Eastern Half of North America. Preliminary reports indicate this is a case of CLASS ONE - VOLCANIC BUTTHURT.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:08 PM
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Interesting.

INTRADE, the online predictive betting / marketing site, places bets on how likely certain political or economic events are. This is an economic prediction market, operating under the hypothesis that the aggregate decisions / viewpoints of a large group of people are the most accurate predictor of any given outcome.

Up to 30 minutes before the announcement, INTRADE was prediting a 70-71% chance of this being overturned. Oops.

I've often been suspicious of the underlying hypothesis behind INTRADE, and whether or not INTRADE was actually sampling random opinions or had devolved into a libertarian polling device.
Truth to tell, I would have been on the losing side of that bet. I was sure the Prez had frittered away his whole first term on this. Feeling a little better about things now. We still have the political mass behavior modification decision to deal with, but maybe, with a free, even if bought press, plus interwebz, the peoples can still figger it out as to what is really what.
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I'm wondering if the House will go ahead with the Holder contempt ruling today, in light of this. It might look like a vengeful Hail Mary.

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1) The Anti-Injunction Act does not bar these lawsuits challenging the individual mandate.

2) 5-4 (Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy, Alito): The individual mandate is not a valid exercise of the commerce power.

3) 5-4 (Roberts, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan): However, the mandate is a valid exercise of the taxing power and is constitutional on that basis.

4) 7-2 (Roberts, Breyer, Kagan, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Alito): The Medicaid expansion provisions exceed Congress' spending power by threatening states will loss of all federal Medicaid funding absent full acquiescence in the ACA's Medicaid provisions.

5) 5-4 (Roberts, Breyer, Kagan, Ginsburg, Sotomayor): However, the constitutional violation is remedied in full by shooting down the provision authorizing the Secretary of HHS to take away existing Medicaid funding is a state refuses to accept the expansion. The rest of ACA is unaffected.

6) Since the individual mandate stands, there's no need to address the larger severability issue. The dissenters - Kennedy, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito - would hold that the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate and the Medicaid expansion takes down the entire ACA.

Christ. Other than (1) and (6), I saw exactly none of that coming.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:06 PM
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Christ. Other than (1) and (6), I saw exactly none of that coming.
Nobody saw it coming.

The Supreme Court has taken a step to restoring its credibility today.

Now if only Scalia would voluntarily submit himself for impeachment due to massive conflicts of interest, then we would have a Supreme Court to be proud of.
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United States v. Alvarez (pdf, 49 pages).

The Court held 6-3 that the federal Stolen Valor Act, which criminalizes false claims of having received certain military medals, violates the Speech Clause of the First Amendment. There was no majority rationale, as the Court remained divided on whether and to what extent Congress may constitutionally criminalize false statements of fact.

FF's prior discussion of the Act is here.
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For realz! Listening to the speech. His star is rising in my eyes. :heart:
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare

I hope at least most of them are kidding.

But they're not, are they?
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They were misquoted. They meant Somalia.
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare

I hope at least most of them are kidding.

But they're not, are they?
No they're not. They're stupid see, and don't even know what they're bitching about

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"I had to politely explain that, 'Actually, sir, your health care is being provided by the government,' " Inglis told the Post. "But he wasn't having any of it."
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They were misquoted. They meant Somalia.
Speaking of which, when can we look forward to EinWhinyPlagiarian and Chief Justice yguy weighing in here on this momentous event?

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I could even go for being Jerolled! :lol:
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare

I hope at least most of them are kidding.

But they're not, are they?
Oops, posted that to Conservatives Say Stupid Shit before I saw it was here.
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I hope at least most of them are kidding.

But they're not, are they?
:lol:

Enjoy, Clutch!
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I was sure the Prez had frittered away his whole first term on this.
Most of America agrees with you on that point, regardless of this decision today. :yup:
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I hope at least most of them are kidding.

But they're not, are they?
:lol:

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What about the extra-scratchy Mao suits with multiple tags in the back of the collar that you can't remove without unraveling the whole thing?
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