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Old 02-07-2019, 09:48 PM
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Default Stupid fact of the day.

I had to look up Silent Sam, because Sammy Davis Jr.'s original stage name was "Silent Sam the Dancing Midget," and I was sort of confused.

For any other confused people: It is an anonymous Confederate soldier statue, I guess.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:27 PM
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It's supposed to represent students and alumni of UNC who fought for the Confederacy. At its dedication, the KKK-supporting speaker bragged about how he "horse-whipped a Negro wench until her skirts hung in shreds". That man, Julius Carr, lends his name to the town next to Chapel Hill, Carrboro (they have considered changing the name, but apparently the state legislature can block such a move).

Another charming story about Silent Sam is that a common joke at UNC was something like "legend has it that Silent Sam will fire his gun in recognition if a virgin walks by", the joke being that our female classmates are sluts and that's why Sam remains silent, har har.
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:37 PM
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Parking this op-ed from Rev. William Barber to remind myself to read the whole thing after finishing my assignment tonight. The excerpts I've seen have been very promising.

How Ralph Northam and others can repent of America’s original sin - The Washington Post

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…If Northam, or any politician who has worn blackface, used the n-word or voted for the agenda of white supremacy, wants to repent, the first question they must ask is “How are the people who have been harmed by my actions asking to change the policies and practices of our society?” In political life, this means committing to expand voting rights, stand with immigrant neighbors, and provide health care and living wages for all people. In Virginia, it means stopping the environmental racism of the pipeline and natural gas compressor station Dominion Energy intends to build in Union Hill, a neighborhood founded by emancipated slaves and other free African Americans.

Scapegoating politicians who are caught in the act of interpersonal racism will not address the fundamental issue of systemic racism. We have to talk about policy. But we also have to talk about trust and power. If white people in political leadership are truly repentant, they will listen to black and other marginalized people in our society. They will confess that they have sinned and demonstrate their willingness to listen and learn by following and supporting the leadership of others. To confess past mistakes while continuing to insist that you are still best suited to lead because of your experience is itself a subtle form of white supremacy.

At the same time, we cannot allow political enemies of Virginia’s governor to call for his resignation over a photo when they continue themselves to vote for the policies of white supremacy. If anyone wants to call for the governor’s resignation, they should also call for the resignation of anyone who has supported racist voter suppression or policies that have a disparate impact on communities of color.

…In our present moral crisis, we must remember that real repentance is possible — and it looks like working together to build the multiethnic democracy we’ve never yet been.
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Two concepts that I’ve been thinking about a lot lately are guilt and responsibility.

When it comes to racism in America, I think that guilt and responsibility tend to be seen as more or less the same thing. But I’m beginning to understand how there’s a real difference.

As white people, are we guilty of the sins of our forefathers? No, I don’t think so.

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Old 04-15-2019, 09:52 PM
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In further Bernie-Madhoff Phenomenon news, I just got this from my dentist, after seeing it here!

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($10 says "Republican politicians" includes the president*)

…make that $1,000



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State-sponsored terrorism.
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More adventures in post-racial America:
“I’m a Christian and my Christian beliefs are you don’t do interracial marriage. That’s the way I was brought up and that’s the way I believe. I have black friends, I hired black people. But when it comes to all this stuff you see on TV, when you see blacks and whites together, it makes my blood boil because that’s just not the way a Christian is supposed to live.”
~ Jim Cleveland, City Councilman, Hoschton, GA (defending mayor's decision to pass on hiring a black man as City Administrator cuz the good Christian white folk of Hoschton just aren't ready for that shit).

In related news, Councilman Cleveland had a colored maid when he was growing up, and she was "just like one of the family."
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I mean. That's not even "I'm not racist, but" territory.
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Firmly in the realm of "I'm a racist and mad at everyone who isn't racist!"
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Old 05-07-2019, 06:12 PM
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‘Put them all in a gas chamber,’ said Border militia member, ‘go back to Hitler days’ – Report / Boing Boing

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I listened to a right wing radio show yesterday on 101.5 in NJ. Shit like you can't believe. I mean seriously, don't believe it. There was a call-in segment on reparations, and a black lady called in. I could not believe what I was hearing. The hosts said a lot of people of all ethnicities are struggling. The caller said yes but blacks started out as chattel and then endured segregationist policies and disenfranchisement for decades, more than a century, even up to the present. The host said, well Irish were slaves in America too. I said WHAT? How come I never heard about this. Of course a quick fact check showed the reason I never heard of it is mostly because it isn't true, though it's a right wing myth, all right. Then the caller raised the point of school funding, and the host said that way more bags of money have been dumped on minority schools but they just wasted it because bad families. I don't even have to fact check that to know it's not true, because it isn't. The shit some people will believe. It's unbelievable.
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I listened to a right wing radio show yesterday on 101.5 in NJ.
Why were you listening? Why was black lady caller listening?

Just so they can say "yeah, we have black callers, we have (spits) freethinker callers"...
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I listened to a right wing radio show yesterday on 101.5 in NJ.
Why were you listening? Why was black lady caller listening?

Just so they can say "yeah, we have black callers, we have (spits) freethinker callers"...
Sometimes you just feel the need to be enraged, ya know?

No, I guess it's because we were curious about what Trump bumpers would have to say about reparations. Maybe it was because we caught a part of some comments Cory Booker made on the subject. The hosts were doing the thing where they make their target out to be getting overly emotional, like a speech about institutional racism in America should be dry as dust. In any case, Booker wasn't really overly emotive. Standard alt right white nationalist undialectic.
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The Irish slave thing is fascinating for so many reasons but I love to respond with “That’s horrible, we should give them reparations as well, once we give them to black people, don’t you agree?”

Their reaction is always funny as I’ve never had one person who has said that realize that they are basically saying ‘english whites were even bigger abusers and racists than we thought!’ English whites of course because many/most of the people using this excuse aren’t Irish and have basically appropriated Irish plight for no other reason than the Irish have white skin, and oh boy do they get twitchy after you mention that! Bonus is it inevitably results in them claiming some 1/16th style Irish heritage because the entire point of the Irish slave claim is so they can say, “but see, we were the victims toooo!”
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they are basically saying ‘english whites were even bigger abusers and racists than we thought!’
Speaking as an English white, we have a lot of abusive history to take credit for (we invented the concentration camp for example). But the English definition of race isn't dependent on colour; basically the English are the superior race and everyone else is either to be abused directly (the Irish, the Afrikaners, and in our dreams the French) and/or condescendingly governed for their 'betterment' (the Indians, Australia, Canada, even America until you revolting lot revolted). There are other flavours of course, like the business with the tea and the opium in China.

Those were the days.
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Whiteness is a social construct, though. It's malleable, it changes over time, and it kind of occurs on a spectrum that doesn't have much of anything to do with literal color.
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YOU'RE a social construct.
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Oh indeed! I should really say the american expansionist white, since while it was the english settlers that drove a lot of the slavery and anti-black sentiment, I guess a proper english gentleman would consider the American colonies working with those dirty inferior french to be tainted english and no longer worthy of the empire.

I say french as a lot of american white nationalists don’t seem to understand just how much distain the British and French had for each other barely 100 years ago. There are probably plenty of southern white nationalists that have way more than enough ‘french blood’ to get them seen as some nasty subhuman chimera by the not so distant english.

These days white nationalists will happily grab from any white appearing group if it gives them advantage or victim hood. Many are heavily into celtic or viking heritage even though it’s a lot of bullshit.
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they are basically saying ‘english whites were even bigger abusers and racists than we thought!’
Speaking as an English white, we have a lot of abusive history to take credit for (we invented the concentration camp for example).
Oh, quit trying to be so special.

I saw a historian discussing how prior to the Trail of Tears forcing the relocation of the Cherokee, they were forced to "congregate" at "assembly camps", which she said academic historians today refer to as concentration camps. Similar camps were used for many other tribes that were forcibly deported from their homelands. This would've been thus in the mid-1800s.

Of course, in fairness to the English, the Americans doing that were of mostly English stock.

The Spanish also utilized similar camps against Cubans when they were rebelled in attempts at independence, and it seems perhaps the term was coined by the Spanish in a form, as reconcentrados ("reconcentration" rather than "concentration").

And it is fair to say that the English made significant innovations in the use of concentration camps against the Boers which provided inspiration for the even more horrific use by the Nazis.
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they are basically saying ‘english whites were even bigger abusers and racists than we thought!’
Speaking as an English white, we have a lot of abusive history to take credit for (we invented the concentration camp for example).
Oh, quit trying to be so special.
The great thing about being English is that we don't have to try, we are naturally special. :english:

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The always essential Sam Bee on how our government created the problems Central American migrants are fleeing.

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Can't watch the video atm but the headline also applies to the migrant 'crisis' in Europe ... 90% of it is a direct result of American and European governments' choices about what they did in Syria and the whole of the Middle East.
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