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I know I'm mixing up my Whedon shows, but maybe SHIELD contracts extend beyond life like Wolfram & Hart do. Maybe they kept Coulson alive just because he died at the right time to test their machine.
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Even though it's a big giant announcement from Marvel itself, I'm bespoilering the following information:

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Can't be true, right?
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Later, I guess, in the same interview he says

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"I guess I don’t mean to say that people who have been frustrated by that discovery period are necessarily losers," he said. "I just think they should be, perhaps, a little more patient."
So, he soft back pedals a little. And to continue my defense: he calls a very specific subset of fans "losers." Namely those who have quit watching because it wasn't Marvel inclusive enough. On one hand, I understand the fans' complaints, and I also understand Gregg's frustration. He's generally a little more self aware when doing this sort of thing but I guess getting beat up over a period of time can still get to you.

I just don't know, man. I'd like to know more but then I don't want this to be some kind of stupid tempest in a tea pot. I'd much rather just (try to) enjoy the show as much as I can and let all the nonsense surrounding what it should or should not be sit by the wayside.
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Anyone still watching this?

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A handsome, charming Black man coming between the cute nerd couple everyone is shipping. Now where have I seen that before?

That's about all I took away from this episode, Whedon be Whedoning.
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Who's shipping FitzSimmons? I've only seen people talking about people shipping them. Any other time someone brings up FitzSimmons it's, you know, how the show presents them: As a single(ish) person. I've never put them together romantically. Fitz has even crushed pretty hard on Skye (though, thankfully, it hasn't become a shorthand way of identifying his character); and in an AMA Chloe Bennet (Skye) thought the idea of shipping Skye and Simmons wasn't unrealistic. (That was her speaking independently on the idea, not anything anyone has mentioned, implied or tried in the writing room.)

(As to the state of the show and thoughts on this episode in particular, I'm awaiting a rewatch to nail down/shake loose some opinions.)
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Who's shipping FitzSimmons?
I thought the episode where...uh...Lady Fitzsimmons had the Electric Chitauri Boogaloo virus pretty clearly implied that the two were at least somewhat into each other, even if they weren't completely aware of it themselves.
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I :blame: the media for always telling everyone that men and women can only be friends if it leads to them being romantically attached to each other. I didn't infer that from those events [Thanks] in part to them establishing previously (and, I guess, since) that they weren't like that with each other.
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Adam is smart and I agree with everything he says. That's where I got the idea, too.

But seriously, didn't he jump out of plane and decide to get some field skills because he was jealous that she was making eyes at Agent Block-of-wood?
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Adam is smart and I agree with everything he says. That's where I got the idea, too.

But seriously, didn't he jump out of plane and decide to get some field skills because he was jealous that she was making eyes at Agent Block-of-wood?
Yah, that's specifically what I had in mind.
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Sou and I laughed and laughed and laughed at that :lol: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.

Also can someone with more knowledge/contacts/forums tell me what G.H. was? Or does anyone even know?
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Bill Paxton straight up killed the guy, and we know he's going to end up a villain or anti-hero. Agent Block-of-wood injured his guy and was already to give him help and save his life but he died too soon. That's good enough for television heroism.
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YES MEN was supposed to be an exciting show. I was hoping it would be the best of the season thus far. And it almost was. The Lady Sif hasn't been given a whole lot of MCU screen time so I was p happy that she was coming to the television to get some face time and some character filler. Also, Jaime Alexander is p cool. And last week we find out that Sif is coming because Lorelei escaped. And now we know why.

Lorelei has the power to compel men to do her bidding. But, apparently, only men because, lawl, they are inherently flawed, amirite ladies? And in spite of the fantastic Asgardian ass kicking that happens throughout the episode, the show some how fucks up an intriguing premise from there.

The first and unbelievable not worst mistake the show makes is handing Ward the idiot ball. Yes, okay, it's not like he's been shown to be mentally competent before, but is it too much to hope for that people actually listen when they're briefed on the powers and abilities of the enemy they are trying to capture? They took great pains to show you that they now have unlimited number and type of the special magic bullet guns (once called nite-nite and now ICER) and when it most matters you don't use it.

And even if the next scenes hadn't happened, nobody seemed to care that Ward was compelled to act as he did. But the next scenes did happen and nobody seemed to care that Ward wasn't just mind-raped, but he was physically raped as well, Ward himself included. It's extra more bad because Lorelei and Ward abscond to Vegas, and I can only assume the writers did it with the express intent of showing this sex scene. It was choreographed and filmed as though it were any other ordinary scene between consenting adults. In fact, it was shown to have more passion than the actual consenting relations between Ward and May.

The show is off for the next couple of weeks, so we'll see what comes of this, if anything.

But instead of wasting our time with dealing with what actually happened in this episode, they spend it by piling on more DUN DUN DUN spycraft and mystery.

The only other thing I liked out of this episode was Simmons standing up to Coulson, forcing him to give a good damn reason for his secret keeping after his big honesty kick.
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Man.

I hadn't even considered that point of view. There was a big honking blind spot because I totally bought into that patriarchal thing where boys will always want sex, no matter what, so they can't be raped.

Fucking show.
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If it will make you feel better (and it should), it wasn't readily apparent to me either. 1) Because I'm an idiot and 2) because there were no revelations or ramifications in the story proper. The first article I read discussing the episode mentioned it - and so did the second and then the third and then a majority of the comments on those articles. I'm kinda mad at myself for being so passive to the story through that point. I think I was busy being annoyed for a different reason.
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I was actually out of the room for the sex scene so I didn't even know he'd been raped until I read it on here. I think that might be the thing that pushes me over the edge into dropping the show.
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I'm finally caught up on this show. Random thoughts:

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The first and unbelievable not worst mistake the show makes is handing Ward the idiot ball. Yes, okay, it's not like he's been shown to be mentally competent before, but is it too much to hope for that people actually listen when they're briefed on the powers and abilities of the enemy they are trying to capture? They took great pains to show you that they now have unlimited number and type of the special magic bullet guns (once called nite-nite and now ICER) and when it most matters you don't use it.
Dude. You've specifically been told that the combination of her touch and voice will compromise you. She is too far away to touch you, but walking toward you slowly. Stand your ground? Sure, why not? It's not like you could have, I dunno, backed the fuck up while calling loudly for Sif.

It bothered me that the Coulson Scouts straight up killed a couple of guards who were just doing their jobs, but even moreso that there are apparently no repercussions to completely going off the reservation, disobeying orders, and blowing up what's presumably a very expensive and valuable piece of real estate, including what may have been a unique source of alien material.

And, speaking of, why the shit is Coulson so freaked out about the alien? Two seconds ago, you were all gung ho about Skye shooting up a mysterious unidentified chemical substance, but now that it's a mysterious unidentified chemical substance of extraterrestrial origin, you're having second thoughts? It's not even like he was freaked out (as any human being would be) by the very existence of aliens. He has met aliens! He's all chummy with one in the very next episode!

Where is Fury? Is his absence a lead in to Winter Solider? I am so looking forward to that, and hoping it addresses all the hinky issues with SHIELD.
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Well that was quite an episode. I think the show is finally starting to justify its existence.

Here are some spoileriffic interviews with the cast and creators:

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