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Old 11-28-2018, 08:13 PM
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... the ethical judgement of the US can be bought if the price is high enough.

The trouble is that that is true whether or not you abhor it. It doesn't discredit Jon Miller's analysis in any way.


Trump is an amoral lieing sack of shit.

That is exactly the kind of obviously partisan rhetoric that I think I need to avoid. But thanks for trying. :thankee:
Apart from the epithet, it seems objective to me and not really partisan. There's no way to sugar coat it, the man is a liar. Lie, deny, sidestep and cloud the issue is what he does on a regular and ongoing basis, by any dispassionate analysis of his own words.

As for Miller, there isn't any merit to any of it, save perhaps whether or not AQ is making hay of it or whether he supports the Muslim Brotherhood or not. On those points I have no idea, but suppose we stipulate they're true, for the sake of argument. Would that justify his murder, or Trump's lack of concern over the murder?

No one suggests making war, at least so far as I'm aware. There is plenty we could do short of war to demonstrate our disapproval. No one cares about the man's murder? Lots of people care, there is a lot to disapprove of when journalists are murdered because they criticize governments. I don't think that should be a partisan issue, unless the conservatives are making it one by buying into the "Media is the enemy of the people, fake news" line the president is pushing.
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Watching Scott Walker, Governor un-elect of Wisconsin, get shown the exit is an especially sweet morsel from November. I read somewhere, and I think you can verify this if you want, is that 54% of voters chose democrats for the state house, but republicans held on to 63% of the seats because of gerrymander. The republicans see the writing on the wall, so they're trying to reassign powers from the governor to the legislature. This has spawned a demonstration.

Wisconsin Republicans may have gone too far as their brazen move to nullify the midterm vote sparks massive backlash | Alternet

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Among the things the bills would do are restrict Evers' power to allocate public funds, shift the authority to let Kaul terminate a state lawsuit from Evers to the legislature (thus vetoing his campaign promise to end Wisconsin's involvement in the Affordable Care Act lawsuit), give the legislature authority to defend cases challenging the constitutionality of their own bills (so they can fight to preserve their own gerrymandering scheme), cut back early voting, and move the date of the Democratic presidential primary so that it is held on a different day from the state Supreme Court election (which the GOP hopes will depress turnout and let them keep their judicial majority).
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:07 AM
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Fun thing with chaos agents.

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Old 01-03-2019, 04:56 AM
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This seems like a good article on the life story of trickle down and how republicans need to legislate tax breaks when in power and then scream about debt when out. It had a tidbit I was unaware of, this Jude Wanniski guy who hatched the undeniably brilliant, if exceptionally devious scheme. Most of the rest is old news and materially correct, it matches my understanding of the situation.
Unfortunately, it's much too long to hold most peoples interest for long, so they'll sail along believing that democrats spend too much and republicans are fiscally responsible when the opposite is demonstrably true.

Somebody needs to distill this down into a simple chart somehow.


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The Republicans got what they wanted from Wanniski’s work. They held power for nearly 40 years, skimmed trillions of dollars out of the economy, gutted organized labor, and packed the Supreme Court and the entire federal court system.

Best of all, though, for the Two Santa Claus GOP, the years since 1981 have left such a massive national debt that some misguided “conservative” Democrats will again be clamoring to shoot Santa with cuts to education, infrastructure, health care, and other social programs.

The Two Santa Claus theory isn’t dead, and starting any day now we’ll see the Republicans crank up their debt hysteria. It’s as predictable as the seasons.

Hopefully, though, this time Democrats will point out the massive fraud perpetrated by the GOP since 1981, and begin talking about Two Santa Clauses in the media.

If they don’t, and enough “Third Way” and “New Dem” Democrats get on board with the “deficit hawks” to drag down the New Deal progressives, get ready for the second Trump term.
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:16 AM
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We're going to need more popcorn.

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Old 01-04-2019, 08:26 AM
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And about that AOC dancing thing:


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Thread from Leverage writer John Rogers:




Not going to attempt to summarise, as I can’t possibly do his words justice in fewer words than he did; just go read it. It’s not that long, and it’s worth it. I will, however, excerpt a particularly choice sentence.

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I think this one of the first times in the country’s short (and it is *short*) history we’ve had a serious cultural shift without a war in the middle of it.
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Now go read it.
So I read it, and posted it in a couple places and what do you know, boomers out of the woodwork to say Not All Boomers.

And so I had a thought that maybe when someone needs to jump up and say "Not All X" it might be that they weren't the target audience.

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Hits so many thrads I'll put it here.

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Joe Liebermann hopes that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't the future of the Democratic party.

AOC has other opinions ...


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Every now and again, something reminds me of Joe Lieberman, and I can never remember his name. I have had to ask Matlock a couple of times, "Who is that stupid little yellow Democrat everyone hates?"
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Every now and again, something reminds me of Joe Lieberman, and I can never remember his name. I have had to ask Matlock a couple of times, "Who is that stupid little yellow Democrat everyone hates?"
He is, in fact, a former Democrat. It is important to remember that he ran in, I believe it was, 2006 as an independent after Ned Lamont won the primary. It is also important to remember that he is the reason Obamacare didn't have a public option, despite having previously pledged not to vote against one.

In short, what I'm saying is fuck Joe Lieberman. His opinion of the Democratic Party's direction is about as relevant as Individual-1's.
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Ugh, that guy. I have this weird thing with Joe Lieberman where my reptile brain has classified him as dead but my thinking brain knows that he is not, so that every time I see him mentioned anywhere (which is not very often nowadays) the lizard brain goes "I thought he was dead" and regular brain goes "shut the fuck up lizard brain you did not think that."

I think it is because several years ago I noted that Jim Jeffords died and the Lieberman synapses got all confused.
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Wait, you're saying Joe Lieberman is a zombie lizard brain?

*rereads*

Well, you're not denying it.
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