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05-27-2007, 03:22 PM
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Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
Good short piece by Christopher Hitchens at the Newsweek / Washington Post site.
Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
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In return for the hospitality of Washingtonpost.com this week, may I be churlish and mention something that has been irritating me about the print version of the paper ever since I moved here twenty-five years ago? The fact is that the objective, detached, independent-minded Washington Post publishes horoscopes.
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Credulity, in the sense of simple-mindedness, is often praised by those who claim to admire the “simple faith” of the devout. But the problem with credulity is that it constitutes an open invitation to the unscrupulous, who will take advantage of those who are prepared to believe things without evidence. This is why, for so many of us, the notion of anything being “faith-based” is a criticism rather than a recommendation.
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Also some reader comment of "variable" quality.
One thing bothers me.
Christopher Hitchens puts out good stuff, but his current position in the media culture is fashionably edgy-sexy bad boy.
"Atheism? That's so-o-o-o-o-o 2007 ... "
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05-27-2007, 03:42 PM
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Re: Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
I don't read the Washington Post, so I can't tell if he's being sarcastic when he refers to it as "the objective, detached, independent-minded Washington Post". Isn't that the paper owned by Rev. Sun Myung Moon?
ETA: Oops, it's the Washington Times that Mr. Moonie owns. My bad!
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05-27-2007, 07:15 PM
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Yes, that one.
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Re: Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
Maybe he's being sarcastic, anyway?
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05-27-2007, 07:38 PM
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Fishy mokey
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Re: Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
I doubt it.
Christopher Hitchens was a cheerleader for the Iraq war, so I guess he would think the WaPo is fine in that respect.
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05-27-2007, 11:53 PM
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Always keep cool.
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Re: Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
the objective, detached, independent-minded Washington Post publishes horoscopes.
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Harmless enough, you may say. But how true is it that nonsense and pseudo-science are harmless? Astrology is widely considered to be discredited because of certain very obvious objections:
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Harmless, because of our objective mind, a religion where your mind is not at ease any more, that is harmfull!
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1) It gives people the impression that they are the center of the universe and that the constellations are somehow arranged with them in mind.
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It gives you an impression, and nothing more than that.
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)It suggests that there is a supernatural supervision of our daily lives, and that this influence can be detected and expounded by mere humans.
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Every single soul, is free to believe. Even to believe, that the body of Jesus,
dissapeared and never returned. A pity. God I love that man!!
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) It bases itself on the idea that our character and personality are irrevocably formed at the moment of birth or even of conception.
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Scociety, oh scociety, oh don't you cry for me
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Who does not know how to laugh at the credulity of those who fall for this ancient hoax? And why would it matter, except that religion, too, believes that the cosmos was created with us in mind, that our lives are supervised by an almighty force that priests and rabbis and imams can interpret, and that – by way of doctrines such as “original sin” – our natures have been largely determined when we are still in the womb or the cradle.
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If it were you, you are to live,............... or not, just flushed down.
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Credulity, in the sense of simple-mindedness, is often praised by those who claim to admire the “simple faith” of the devout. But the problem with credulity is that it constitutes an open invitation to the unscrupulous, who will take advantage of those who are prepared to believe things without evidence. This is why, for so many of us, the notion of anything being “faith-based” is a criticism rather than a recommendation.
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Teaching to be good to your brother, never hurts anyone.
Christopher Hitchens is a columnist and author whose latest book is entitled “God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything."
God is great, man clearly not.
God is one, man is someone.
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05-28-2007, 01:20 AM
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Yes, that one.
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Just to show it's not just the "Abrahamic" brethren who get pissy, check out this comment:
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SANJAY ALTEKAR:
Astrology is part fo the Hindu tradition. If one don't like Hinduism that's fine, but I wonder if Mr Hitchens would be as vitriolic towards all the other great religions too?
Posted May 23, 2007 3:13 PM
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05-28-2007, 02:45 AM
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Always keep cool.
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Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred
Just to show it's not just the "Abrahamic" brethren who get pissy, check out this comment:
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SANJAY ALTEKAR:
Astrology is part fo the Hindu tradition. If one don't like Hinduism that's fine, but I wonder if Mr Hitchens would be as vitriolic towards all the other great religions too?
Posted May 23, 2007 3:13 PM
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Not even a little drop, it is quite easy, to deny beliefs.No facts.
So why get pissy?
There is nothing to bring in, when you deny the laws of gravity.
But what if you can fuck someone up, at adistance?
Look out, for the real dangerous "mumbo jumbo".
Drugs, hypnotizing people, saying that you won't make it, but meanwhile
you know you can.
It is not only religion you have to critisize.
There is only thing that you MUST be, and that is being a brother.
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HOW YOU ARE AS A PERSON IS THE MASTER !!
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05-28-2007, 03:10 AM
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Always keep cool.
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Just to show it's not just the "Abrahamic" brethren who get pissy,
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Not even a little drop, it is quite easy, to deny beliefs.No facts.
So why get pissy?
There is nothing to bring in, when you deny the laws of gravity.
But what if you can fuck someone up, at adistance?
Look out, for the real dangerous "mumbo jumbo".
Drugs, hypnotizing people, saying that you won't make it, but meanwhile
you know you can.
Religion is easy to critisize.
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REMEMBER...........THE COLOUR OF YOUR SKIN IS ONLY AND JUST ONLY THE COLOUR OF YOUR SKIN, HOW YOU ARE AS A PERSON MAKES YOU A WHOLE PERSON AND NOTHING ELSE....HOW YOU HAVE SEX , HOW YOU DRESS UP, HOW YOU PRAY only gives away your hobbies
HOW YOU ARE AS A PERSON IS THE MASTER !!
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05-29-2007, 01:51 PM
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Just keep m'nose clean, egg, chips & beans, I'm always full of steam
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Re: Astrology Not the Only Cosmic Hoax
Hitchens needs a fucking Valium. A lot of what he says is obviously true, but then he goes off on irrelevant tirades like this one. He's in danger of becoming the next Newdow.
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