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Yes, it was probably better for him to risk losing his job.
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What makes you think there was any risk whatsoever to his job? As for it "probably" being better, I don't know what to tell you other than that I find it disgusting that you would see it as a possibility rather than a given that stopping children being raped is better than allowing the rapist to continue to rape children unabated.
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Until a body is found, we don't even know that he's dead, never mind murdered. Equating speculation about what might have happened to Gricar with the Grand Jury's findings of fact and Sandusky's admitted behavior just adds insult to the victims' injury.
He has been declared legally dead just recently.
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What makes you think there was any risk whatsoever to his job?
The fact that the DA is declared dead in the Susquehanna.
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What makes you think there was any risk whatsoever to his job? As for it "probably" being better, I don't know what to tell you other than that I find it disgusting that you would see it as a possibility rather than a given that stopping children being raped is better than allowing the rapist to continue to rape children unabated.
I don't know, if other faculty members knew about it, yet he reported it to the authorities and nothing was done, it kind of makes you wonder.
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Paterno reported the 2002 rape to two faculty members, not to the police. The police knew about the 1998 case because the victim's mother reported it.
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stopping children being raped is better than allowing the rapist to continue to rape children unabated.
What carrot would it take for you not to?
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We live in a fucked world, I choose not to participate in the fuck shit, I Rebel.
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Paterno reported the 2002 rape to two faculty members, not to the police. The police knew about the 1998 case because the victim's mother reported it.
Okay, that's fine. It suggests there may have been a greater coverup involved. In which case, yes, he may have been in danger of losing his job. And, of course explains why he's now become the fall guy.
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He has been declared legally dead just recently.
That is a legal requirement for his family to be able to deal with basic issues like life insurance, property sales, etc., not a finding of fact.

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What makes you think there was any risk whatsoever to his job?
The fact that the DA is declared dead in the Susquehanna.
That is a non-sequitur. Gricar disappeared in 2005. Joe Paterno did not make choices in 1998 and 2002 based on something that hadn't happened yet.
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Old 11-13-2011, 02:58 AM
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Paterno reported the 2002 rape to two faculty members, not to the police. The police knew about the 1998 case because the victim's mother reported it.
Okay, that's fine. It suggests there may have been a greater coverup involved. In which case, yes, he may have been in danger of losing his job. And, of course explains why he has now become the fall guy.
How is Joe Paterno the fall guy, Iacchus? What should be the consequences, if any, for his actions?
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All I'm saying is he may have been complicit against his will. And yes, as I already said (implied?), he would have to face up the consequences for not reporting it to the police earlier. As for what happens after that though, that's not for me to decide.
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All I'm saying is he may have been complicit against his will. And yes, as I already said (implied?), he would have to face up the consequences for not reporting it to the police earlier. As for what happens after that though, that's not for me to decide.
What are some examples of how Joe Paterno's complicity could have been forced upon him, lo these many years? With what consequences that would trump the consequences of letting a rapist continue to rape children?
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All I'm saying is he may have been complicit against his will. And yes, as I already said (implied?), he would have to face up the consequences for not reporting it to the police earlier. As for what happens after that though, that's not for me to decide.
When it is reported to the Police, the DA goes missing.

This of course was a known communique before the act was preformed.
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This of course was a known communique before the act was preformed.
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I have to ask, who give the a flying fuck about sports?
End of an era?
Yeah, most of us don't care.
I do care. I love football.
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All I'm saying is he may have been complicit against his will. And yes, as I already said (implied?), he would have to face up the consequences for not reporting it to the police earlier. As for what happens after that though, that's not for me to decide.
When it is reported to the Police, the DA goes missing.
That is false. The 1998 case was reported to the police, the DA declined to prosecute and seven years later he went missing. In between those two events was the 2002 rape which was not reported to the police.
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I have to ask, who give the a flying fuck about sports?
End of an era?
Yeah, most of us don't care.
I do care. I love football.
Granted you care about foot ball, what percentage of the world does care?
The end of an era, seems it should have greater historical importance than a game played in a limited number of somewhat populous countries.
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One. One country.
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I think the UK was trying to start a league when I was there in the 1990s. I'm guessing it didn't take off?
Yeah, not a huge draw.
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London Monarchs?
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No, most play the other football. You know. With the ball (a round thing that rolls). That they kick with their feet.

Don't like that either btw. Or at least I don't have to hear about it all the time.
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No, I think rugby is more specific to Australia. :yup:

Although I guess there is the Rugby World Cup.
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