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Old 10-17-2008, 08:46 PM
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Default Effect The butterfly

Is reality not a metaphor? Does not all that exists outside us not reveal all that exists within us?

There are many different ways of viewing human existence as we know it but this view dramatically changes when we consider life after death. If we do in fact continue to live, in some form after death, then our whole idea of death itself changes. The religious view of death is that death is just a stage or state we pass through as we live, therefore it is not the “GRAND TRAGEDY” that we commonly view it here and now. Right now we view death as something to be avoided at all costs, the absolute evil, but in the event that we do discover that we transform and continue to live then we might realize that death is in fact not something to be avoided at all. When considering this life and the here after I commonly refer to the caterpillar’s metamorphosis into a butterfly. The caterpillar does not need to avoid the cocoon stage of its existence but it may be helpful for it to prepare for the state. We as humans try our best to remain caterpillars for as long as possible and we scheme desperately to avoid the change, but maybe what we should concern ourselves with is our ability to survive the metamorphosis. We might want to train and conserve through the spirit so we have the strength to break open the cocoon when we finally get to that stage. We should not be lazy or overindulgent so in the end we will emerge as we were intended.

Death can easily be represented by the time in which the caterpillar dies into the cocoon but the struggle inside the cocoon occurs while we are still living. It is no great surprise then that Christians say “we are dead in Christ”. If the cocoon occurs while we live then it is makes sense why we are set up to struggle so much throughout life. The caterpillar must struggle through the cocoon or it will not have the strength to fly once it gets out. As humans all we see here on Earth is when our neighbor is released from the cocoon we never see them again. We have no idea if they made it or not. If the caterpillar did not struggle hard while in the cocoon or was given an easy out then we know that caterpillar, who is now a butterfly, will die. This second death which happens outside the cocoon is worse than the first because the caterpillar who became a butterfly is no more. If ,as I believe, Christianity is correct and there is a second death then the struggles we endure in this world make much more sense. In fact we might just come to find out that the pain and struggle in life is more a blessing than a curse.

I believe Christ is the cocoon and through him we fly to the sky. If it wasn’t for him then no man would have the strength to fly. Christ is the great life and we are the legs. Without him we die but within him we struggle through the cocoon to heaven. It is written if we shared in his sufferings we will share in his reward. For Christ became a man to struggle and show us the way through the cocoon that leads us to the light of the sun and freedom of the sky. Without the Spirit we will die within the cocoon, but through the Spirit we will find the strength to struggle to freedom.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: Effect The butterfly

Eh, What do Grubs Know?

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What do grubs know, except perhaps intuitively, what it's like to be a butterfly?

Could it be this is a reflection of our own condition, where we too are earthbound and in need of a grubstake, as we look around with ravenous appetites and devour everything in sight?

It all seems kind of narrow-minded dosen't it? But then what does a grub know? Not much beyond being a grub I suppose ... but, there will come a time. ;)
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