Best Birther Lunacy Evar

[rigorist]

Originally Posted by yguy

At this point it hardly matters, since the registrar has already buggered her own credibility WRT this issue. What she should have done was to either address the authenticity of the COLB as posted by Obama straight up or keep her mouth shut.

That's a shift in your argument, extra chromosome guy.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by rigorist

That's a shift in your argument, extra chromosome guy.

And it won't be the last. Stay alert, because ytroll also fails to signal lane changes when he executes such shifts.

[yguy]

Originally Posted by The Man

No, the board will be the judge of that, and it seems the consensus here is that BigBlue is quite right.

Please. As riddled as this board is with leftarded ninnies, it's hardly competent to judge anything - other than maybe homoerotic art.

Mischaracterising the sentiments of a good 70% of the country isn't going to get you very far.

Since I've done nothing of the sort I don't guess I have anything to worry about.

Actually, several representatives of the state have affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii.

The only one that matters is that of the registrar, and she has clearly not been forthright on this matter.

Again, how, exactly? Are you implying that Hawaii's newspapers ran fraudulent assertions?

No, I'm just noting that the provenance of information found in a 48 year old newspaper is patently questionable. If you don't believe me, try to renew your driver's license with newspaper clippings as proof of your birth in the US, and let us know how that works out for ya.

And if you bugger up the quote tags again in your response, don't expect an answer.

[yguy]

Originally Posted by rigorist

That's a shift in your argument

How do you figure that?

[The Man]

Please. As riddled as this board is with leftarded ninnies, it's hardly competent to judge anything - other than maybe homoerotic art.

Argument by blockheaded assertion. Noted.

Since I've done nothing of the sort I don't guess I have anything to worry about.

So 70% of the country is participating in "argument by blockheaded assertion"? Surely you would have some evidence to back up this extraordinary claim, no?

The only one that matters is that of the registrar, and she has clearly not been forthright on this matter.

Another unsupported assertion. If you're going to question the credibility of government officials, you need to do so, you know, credibility.

No, I'm just noting that the provenance of information found in a 48 year old newspaper is patently questionable. If you don't believe me, try to renew your driver's license with newspaper clippings as proof of your birth in the US, and let us know how that works out for ya.

Good thing Obama isn't using solely newspaper clippings as the crux of his argument then.

And if you bugger up the quote tags again in your response, don't expect an answer.

I didn't bugger up anything.

[yguy]

Originally Posted by The Man

So 70% of the country is participating in "argument by blockheaded assertion"? Surely you would have some evidence to back up this extraordinary claim, no?

Congratulations. You've just won an all expenses paid trip to the Republic of Plonkistan. Enjoy.

[Plant Woman]

The Man, It looks like his answer to your question, "Surely you would have some evidence to back up this extraordinary claim, no?" is no.

[BigBlue2]

Originally Posted by yguy

I'll be the judge of that.

You're not qualified to be the judge of anything.

Originally Posted by yguy

Evidently argument by blockheaded assertion is held in high regard by the towering intellects you presumably associate with.

It's not an assertion, it's a fact. Thanks for admitting that your opponents on this issue are towering intellects. That must have been difficult for you.

Originally Posted by yguy

Actually, all we know is that he has released a document which purports to be a COLB. HI has not affirmed its authenticity.

Yes it has.

Originally Posted by yguy

that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.

[yguy]

Originally Posted by BigBlue2

Yes it has.

Then you will have no problem producing a direct quote to that effect.

[Kael]

I can't be arsed to look one up, since this is all a giant internet fap fest to me and I don't doubt the veracity of the document to begin with. However, it should be pointed out that since the document released had been public for some time before the official statement by the HI DoH regarding their own records, the fact that they said nothing to indicate it is not valid can easily be viewed as evidence that they consider it perfectly acceptable and in line with the information they vouched for in their own records.

[D. Scarlatti]

Originally Posted by yguy

Leftarded ninnies, hardly competent to judge anything other than maybe homoerotic art.

Said the constitutional scholar.

[The Man]

It's the Rush Limbaugh school of argument: If you dislike a person or group's conclusions, disregard their credentials to make such an argument and launch a personal attack on said credentials. Add an attack on their patriotism or rationality for added bonus in order to mask your own lack of respect for your audience.

[Ari]

Anyone who isn't a birther is immediately assumed to be corrupted by commie socialist ideals, which means they won't believe anything that isn't from a birther. Of course the birthers have already made up their minds that Obama isn't a US citizen and all these questions are just a transparent attempt to act like they are searching for the answer.

So the only thing left to do is laugh at them and remind them how many homoerotic scandals the republicans have gotten themselves into.

[Anastasia Beaverhausen]

Originally Posted by Ari

Anyone who isn't a birther is immediately assumed to be corrupted by commie socialist ideals, which means they won't believe anything that isn't from a birther. Of course the birthers have already made up their minds that Obama isn't a US citizen and all these questions are just a transparent attempt to act like they are searching for the answer.

So the only thing left to do is laugh at them and remind them how many homoerotic scandals the republicans have gotten themselves into.

[BigBlue2]

Originally Posted by yguy

Then you will have no problem producing a direct quote to that effect.

I see you are still having problems with the concept of the burden of proof. The stamp on the back by the registrar authenticates the COLB. Do you have any proof that the COLB is fake?

[rigorist]

We have achieved RICO!

In Pottsylvania, there is no enterprise element in RICO.

[Qingdai]

The crazy never stops.

[yguy]

Originally Posted by BigBlue2

I see you are still having problems with the concept of the burden of proof.

On the contrary, I understand it at least a million times better than you do.

The stamp on the back by the registrar authenticates the COLB.

You mean it would if there were any way of knowing by inspection alone that it wasn't C&P'd from a legitimate document. Since we're not living in that world, the minimum requirement for any claim of authenticity can only be satisfied by presenting the document to the registrar for appraisal...but of course no one in the establishment media seems ready to put forth the no doubt herculean effort it would take to accomplish this.

Do you have any proof that the COLB is fake?

Do you have any proof that it's not?

[Anastasia Beaverhausen]

You do know that in US courts, the burden of proof lies on the prosecution? You know, the whole "guilty until proven innocent" thing? Same deal here.

[LadyShea]

She went RICO? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

[BigBlue2]

Originally Posted by yguy

On the contrary, I understand it at least a million times better than you do.

There is even less evidence for that than there is for Obama being born outside the US.

Originally Posted by yguy

You mean it would if there were any way of knowing by inspection alone that it wasn't C&P'd from a legitimate document. Since we're not living in that world, the minimum requirement for any claim of authenticity can only be satisfied by presenting the document to the registrar for appraisal...but of course no one in the establishment media seems ready to put forth the no doubt herculean effort it would take to accomplish this.

The stamp by the registrar indicates that he has seen and appraised the COLB and deemed it authentic. If you don't think that's good enough, too bad.

Originally Posted by yguy

Do you have any proof that it's not?

Yes.

It is you that cannot prove anything.

You cannot prove that the Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is anything but authentic.

You cannot prove that the State of Hawaii is mistaken in saying Obama was born in Hawaii.

Most of all, you cannot prove that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.


You've got nothing except obfuscations, lies, forgeries, red herrings, shifting goalposts and bullshit. Barack Obama is your freely, fairly and most of all legitimately elected President and will be until at least January 20, 2013. Deal with it.

[Watser?]

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by rigorist

We have achieved RICO!

In Pottsylvania, there is no enterprise element in RICO.

The use of a multitude of social security numbers alone is indicative that Mr. Obama appears to have committed a substantial number of felony violations, including but not limited to violations of 42 U.S.C. §408(a)(7)(B).

Why does Barry Soetoro AKA Barrack Obama, have so many different names and SS numbers?

[Brimshack]

Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Why does Barry Soetoro AKA Barrack Obama, have so many different names and SS numbers?

Why do you suck your own feces through a straw?

[yguy]

Originally Posted by Cynical-Chick

You do know that in US courts, the burden of proof lies on the prosecution? You know, the whole "guilty until proven innocent" thing? Same deal here.

Hardly. Obama ceded any fourth amendment (even assuming that applies to birth records) rights WRT information that had bearing on his eligibility for office when he declared his candidacy, wherefore the feds had a responsibility to access it - the apparent failure of the Bush administration to do so notwithstanding.