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The American College of Pediatricians (ACP) is a wingnut collection of pediatricians who espouse a socially conservative and "family values" agenda in opposition to the pediatric mainstream that, in their view, has a liberal bias. The SPLC has described it as a hate group.

They adopted the strategy of picking a very official-sounding name so that conservative information outlets could cite them and still sound smart, and to provide confusion to unsuspecting people. For those looking for a more mainstream body of pediatricians, one can turn to the similarly-named American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), which is the group the ACP split from.
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:34 PM
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:40 PM
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The American College of Pediatricians (ACP) is a wingnut collection of pediatricians who espouse a socially conservative and "family values" agenda in opposition to the pediatric mainstream that, in their view, has a liberal bias. The SPLC has described it as a hate group.

They adopted the strategy of picking a very official-sounding name so that conservative information outlets could cite them and still sound smart, and to provide confusion to unsuspecting people. For those looking for a more mainstream body of pediatricians, one can turn to the similarly-named American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), which is the group the ACP split from.
Rational Wiki is not unbiased. They have their own agenda and they put their own spin on things. Rational Wiki uses lots of name calling which I notice lots of pro-science people do to bolster a flailing argument. Rational Wiki are calling these pediatricians wingnuts because they are in disagreement with what they believe to be a well thought-out rational position. So why the name calling if they're so sure of themselves? No one in that article was extreme nor were they repeating propaganda. They were not repeating conspiracy theories. Rational Wiki is trying to throw out an entire group of people just because they are pro-vaxxers and therefore reject any and all opposition to the idea of mandatory mass vaccination for all. They are the ones repeating propaganda.

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Ideological extremist from either side of the political spectrum who unquestioningly repeats any and all propaganda and/or conspiracy theories propagated by their side of the political spectrum, no matter how unlikely. 2. An eccentric driven by religious fervor to take on unusual or irrational social or political opinions without ...

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Did you even read the article? Refute the facts and then we can have a discussion. The point I am making is that referring to a web page without offering your own rebuttal does nothing to add to the conversation. Here is what one person wrote. Other people gave a more positive response. Moral of the story is to do your own due diligence.

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RationalWiki has lots of one-sided rants, the kind of stuff Wikipedia is very good at weeding out. It tends to be very negative, most authors seem less interested in promoting truth than punishing falsehood. That means you can’t count on it to explain honestly and seriously what the opposing view is, nor to give arguments that will be convincing to someone who didn’t start out in agreement.
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Stop referring to a pro-vaccine group.
That's pretty hard, since 99% of medical doctors and scientists are a "pro-vaccine group".

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Rational Wiki is not unbiased.
Whereas your chemtrailing orb theorists and natural health quacks are completely rational and objective.

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Did you read the article? Refute the facts and then we can have a discussion.
It's just the same crap soup as usual. Kelly Brogan, VAERS, and a statement from that anti-LGBT hate group that doesn't sound very impressive in the first paragraph:

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There have been two case report series (3 cases each) published since 2013 in which post-menarcheal adolescent girls developed laboratory documented POF within weeks to several years of receiving Gardasil, a four-strain human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV4).1,2 Adverse events that occur after vaccines are frequently not caused by the vaccine and there has not been a noticeable rise in POF cases in the last 9 years since HPV4 vaccine has been widely used.
Sure, stop using that vaccine because of unsubstantiated claims of adverse effects, while at the same time there is a very real risk many times greater of getting cervical cancer. What those "family values" asshats are really concerned about, of course, is turning their daughters into filthy little sluts.
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Old 04-05-2018, 11:34 PM
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Stop referring to a pro-vaccine group.
That's pretty hard, since 99% of medical doctors and scientists are a "pro-vaccine group".
That does not prove that the latest vaccine schedule is healthy for all children But.

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Red herring

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It's just the same crap soup as usual. Kelly Brogan, VAERS, and a statement from that anti-LGBT hate group that doesn't sound very impressive in the first paragraph:

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There have been two case report series (3 cases each) published since 2013 in which post-menarcheal adolescent girls developed laboratory documented POF within weeks to several years of receiving Gardasil, a four-strain human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV4).1,2 Adverse events that occur after vaccines are frequently not caused by the vaccine and there has not been a noticeable rise in POF cases in the last 9 years since HPV4 vaccine has been widely used.
Sure, stop using that vaccine because of unsubstantiated claims of adverse effects, while at the same time there is a very real risk many times greater of getting cervical cancer. What those "family values" asshats are really concerned about, of course, is turning their daughters into filthy little sluts.
No, they don’t want their child to be hurt by a vaccine that could make them infertile. Just the thought would worry any loving parent.
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No, they don’t want their child to be hurt by a vaccine that could make them infertile. Just the thought would worry any loving parent.
Fortunately there is no evidence that this is the case.
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No, they don’t want their child to be hurt by a vaccine that could make them infertile. Just the thought would worry any loving parent.
Fortunately there is no evidence that this is the case.
The studies done were not completely reliable. More studies are called for.

New Concerns about the Human Papillomavirus Vaccine | American College of Pediatricians
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The studies done were not completely reliable.
Which studies? Let me guess, some imaginary ones that you don't like the results of?
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:lol:

You could include a title or a description. The title is: DOCTOR BLOWS THE WHISTLE ON FLU SHOTS: THEY'RE DESIGNED TO CAUSE CANCER

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Gardasil Keeps Destroying Lives! (I forgot, it's all coincidence!)

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peacegirl, are flu shots designed to cause cancer?
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The studies done were not completely reliable.
Which studies? Let me guess, some imaginary ones that you don't like the results of?
It's simple, really. You keep doing "studies" until you get the results you want.
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New Study Links Pet Deaths And Cancer To ‘Over-Vaccinating’
January 25, 2018
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Vaccinating cats and dogs can cause a range of diseases and veterinarians are often guilty of "over-prescribing to maximize profits."

Vaccinating cats and dogs can cause a range of diseases and disorders – including autism – and veterinarians are often guilty of “over-prescribing vaccines to maximize profits“, according to a new study published by a U.S. Veterinary journal.

Annual vaccinations have been a cash cow, for vaccine companies and Vets, for many years now. However, according to a group of vets, this revenue is created under false and misleading science and the unnecessary vaccinations are seriously detrimental to the health of our pets.

A group of Vets has also issued a Health Warning, advising pet owners to stop lining the pockets of vaccine companies:

“The present practice of marketing vaccinations for companion animals may constitute fraud by misrepresentation, fraud by silence and theft by deception.“

As far as Big Pharma are concerned, a fool and his money are easily parted, and pet owners are proving as easy to swindle as young parents.

Just like vaccinations for humans, the number of scheduled vaccinations cats and dogs now receive has gone through the roof compared to previous generations.

cont. at: New Study Links Pet Deaths And Cancer Epidemic To 'Over-Vaccinating'
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New Study Links Pet Deaths And Cancer To ‘Over-Vaccinating’
January 25, 2018
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Vaccinating cats and dogs can cause a range of diseases and veterinarians are often guilty of "over-prescribing to maximize profits."

Vaccinating cats and dogs can cause a range of diseases and disorders – including autism – and veterinarians are often guilty of “over-prescribing vaccines to maximize profits“, according to a new study published by a U.S. Veterinary journal.

Annual vaccinations have been a cash cow, for vaccine companies and Vets, for many years now. However, according to a group of vets, this revenue is created under false and misleading science and the unnecessary vaccinations are seriously detrimental to the health of our pets.

A group of Vets has also issued a Health Warning, advising pet owners to stop lining the pockets of vaccine companies:

“The present practice of marketing vaccinations for companion animals may constitute fraud by misrepresentation, fraud by silence and theft by deception.“

As far as Big Pharma are concerned, a fool and his money are easily parted, and pet owners are proving as easy to swindle as young parents.

Just like vaccinations for humans, the number of scheduled vaccinations cats and dogs now receive has gone through the roof compared to previous generations.

cont. at: New Study Links Pet Deaths And Cancer Epidemic To 'Over-Vaccinating'
It has always been an open question. While it is obvious that peacegirl is both stupid and dishonest, it is unclear whether she is more stupid than dishonest, or more dishonest than stupid. Maybe we have here a Schroedinger’s cat type of situation, in which peacegirl is simultaneously both stupid and dishonest in equal measure at the same time.

The lede of her liked article says: “Vaccinating cats and dogs can cause a range of diseases and disorders – including autism*– and veterinarians are often guilty of “over-prescribing vaccines to maximize profits“, according to a new study published by a U.S. Veterinary journal.”

Uh-huh. WHAT FUCKING STUDY? There is no link to it. There is no discussion of it. There is no information on who did it and what their credentials are, what protocols were used, whether it was peer reviewed, there are no quotes from it, there are no citations, THERE IS NOTHING.

Is “Your ‘News’ (lol) Wire” aimed at utter cretins like peacegirl who cannot even notice such inconvenient details?

But wait, there's more!

The author of this piece writes, “Vaccines can even make your dog autistic.” And here, there IS a link!

It’s a link to a Psychology Today article that DEBUNKS the claim that vaccines can make your dog autistic! I quote from the article:

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Even if we accept the fact that canine autism exists, the linkage between vaccination and autism has been scientifically rejected. The fear that vaccines might cause autism started in 1998 in a study conducted by a British physician, Dr. Andrew Wakefield. In it he claimed that he had evidence which showed a link between autism and the widely used measles-mumps-rubella vaccine. His study was later determined to be fraudulent and was retracted by the journal that published it. Furthermore, as a consequence of this, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in the United Kingdom. Since that time, 17 studies in 7 different countries, resulted in the gathering data from hundreds of thousands of children. All of these studies have shown that those receiving such vaccines were not more likely to develop autism than those who haven't received them. Even if we can put aside the debate as to whether or not dogs actually can develop autism, dog owners should be reassured by this extensive research. However in our media dominated society the opinions of celebrities with no scientific training, such as Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carrey and Robert Kennedy, Jr., seem to carry more weight with the public than the actual scientific data.
Are the readers of this revolting web site, like peacegirl, so goddamned stupid that they cannot even click on the link and notice that the linked article fucking CONTRADICTS what the article that links to it claims?????

HA HA HA HA! :lol:

No wonder Trump is president! This is a nation of total cretins! Peacegirl, you should run for president. You’re guaranteed the vote of stupid morons like you, which means you have an instant majority! Don’t worry, I’m sure your handlers will let you booze away to your heart’s content in the Oval Office, just like they let Trump watch Fox “News” all day long in his jammies when he isn’t hauling his cheeseburger-larded bulk around one of his private golf courses.
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About the author of the bogus articles to which peacegirl just linked.

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His mommy is one of his site’s biggest contributors! I wonder if he lives in mommy’s basement, too?

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You cannot tell me all of these adjuvants given from birth to 6 years old are not going to cause adverse reactions in a subset of unfortunate children. You people are so arrogant, you believe your "scientific" studies prove what they do not. God forbid any of these studies are contested, and you people who are so biased cannot dare entertain the idea that the studies are incomplete or worse, misleading. You will do anything to retain your position at all costs, even if it means lying, offering ad hominems, and belittling those who have a different point of view. This is not a free thought forum. It is a gestapo forum. :laugh:

Human Vaccine Inserts

Below are the list of vaccines manufactured in the United States. Every effort has been made to maintain the accuracy of this list. You will notice some vaccines listed more than once. For example, if you look for the MMR vaccine you will see it listed three separate times below. This is because one injection contains the antigens for measles, mumps, and rubella.

For your ease of use, you can use the column headers to quickly and easily sort by vaccine, brand name, or manufacturer. Instantly download each vaccine package insert by clicking on the ‘PDF’ icon. Notice the search bar on the right side as it will automatically filter the vaccine list as you type.

Click this link to see the vaccine schedule.

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Have another drink, peacegirl. :pat:
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You cannot tell me all of these adjuvants given from birth to 6 years old are not going to cause adverse reactions in a subset of unfortunate children.
Stop lying, you lying liar. No one is making any such claim, as has been explained to you about a gazillion times by now, so you can't claim ignorance. Hence, you're lying.


As has been explained to you about a gazillion times now, we know that not everyone can be safely inoculated, and we know why -- some people, for various reasons, cannot be safely vaccinated against a particular disease. That is the entire POINT of herd immunity, as has been explained to you over and over and OVER again, you lying liar.
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