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ShottleBop 09-26-2022 03:24 AM
Minimum wage blues
 
Recently, California passed a law creating a board with the power to set the minimum wage for non-unionized fast-food worker. They're authorized to go as high as $22/hour. (Management-biased description of legisltion here .

I walked to the local grocery store this morning to pick up some apples, celery, and cauliflower for tonight's Rosh Hashanah dinner. Outside the store, someone was collecting signatures on a petition to get an initiative on the ballot to prevent the new law from taking effect. ("Fast food workers need to EARN $22/hr--they shouldn't have it handed to them.") I told him that it was ridiculous to expect someone to live in San Diego County on the current minimum wage, and that $22 seemed more than fair--I'd happily pay more for my fast food if it was going to help someone earn a living wage. (Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be collecting signatures on that petition.)

The guy just sat there.

LarsMac 09-26-2022 04:55 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Most of our grandkids cut there teeth on fast food jobs. And I know that most of them earned every penny they got.

Kamilah Hauptmann 09-26-2022 05:40 AM
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JoeP 09-26-2022 09:04 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
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Originally Posted by ShottleBop (Post 1373915)
Recently, California passed a law creating a board with the power to set
... passed a law creating a committee with the authority to convene a board to prepare a report on the feasibility of enacting the power to set ...

JoeP 09-26-2022 09:05 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShottleBop (Post 1373915)
Outside the store, someone was collecting signatures on a petition to get an initiative on the ballot to prevent the new law from taking effect. ("Fast food workers need to EARN $22/hr--they shouldn't have it handed to them.") I told him that it was ridiculous to expect someone to live in San Diego County on the current minimum wage, and that $22 seemed more than fair--I'd happily pay more for my fast food if it was going to help someone earn a living wage. (Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be collecting signatures on that petition.)

The guy just sat there.
Did he expect signatures just to be handed to him?

viscousmemories 09-26-2022 10:42 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I worked in several different fast food places in my teens and early 20s and I've never worked harder. I've had jobs that were more physically demanding and jobs that were more intellectually demanding, but the pace of work in fast food made it far and away the most stressful.

Miss Shelby 09-26-2022 04:50 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShottleBop (Post 1373915)
Recently, California passed a law creating a board with the power to set the minimum wage for non-unionized fast-food worker. They're authorized to go as high as $22/hour. (Management-biased description of legisltion here .

I walked to the local grocery store this morning to pick up some apples, celery, and cauliflower for tonight's Rosh Hashanah dinner. Outside the store, someone was collecting signatures on a petition to get an initiative on the ballot to prevent the new law from taking effect. ("Fast food workers need to EARN $22/hr--they shouldn't have it handed to them.") I told him that it was ridiculous to expect someone to live in San Diego County on the current minimum wage, and that $22 seemed more than fair--I'd happily pay more for my fast food if it was going to help someone earn a living wage. (Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be collecting signatures on that petition.)

The guy just sat there.
You're willing to pay more for fast food, which has become atrociously expensive, and sacrifice quality and service? I mean I know it's fast food, but lately it hasn't been that fast. And paying like 12 bucks for meal deal for one person is insane. I'm going to a local pub tonight for burger night and we're paying 5.99 for a burger and fries served to us and is a lot better quality than fast food. What did you expect the guy to do? Argue? He knew he wasn't getting your signature so he probably decided not to say anything.

Miss Shelby 09-26-2022 04:50 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by viscousmemories (Post 1373925)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I worked in several different fast food places in my teens and early 20s and I've never worked harder. I've had jobs that were more physically demanding and jobs that were more intellectually demanding, but the pace of work in fast food made it far and away the most stressful.
I bet you learned how to multi task with very few mistakes.

erimir 09-27-2022 02:31 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Shelby (Post 1373936)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShottleBop (Post 1373915)
Recently, California passed a law creating a board with the power to set the minimum wage for non-unionized fast-food worker. They're authorized to go as high as $22/hour. (Management-biased description of legisltion here .

I walked to the local grocery store this morning to pick up some apples, celery, and cauliflower for tonight's Rosh Hashanah dinner. Outside the store, someone was collecting signatures on a petition to get an initiative on the ballot to prevent the new law from taking effect. ("Fast food workers need to EARN $22/hr--they shouldn't have it handed to them.") I told him that it was ridiculous to expect someone to live in San Diego County on the current minimum wage, and that $22 seemed more than fair--I'd happily pay more for my fast food if it was going to help someone earn a living wage. (Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be collecting signatures on that petition.)

The guy just sat there.
You're willing to pay more for fast food, which has become atrociously expensive, and sacrifice quality and service?
1. Where did anyone say that?

2. Can you explain your theory of how paying fast food workers more would make the quality and service decline? If you're being paid enough that you really want to keep that job, and enough that you know your employer could easily attract someone to replace you, would you do a better job or a worse job?

Kamilah Hauptmann 09-27-2022 02:43 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Everyone knows that workers paid so little they qualify for social assistance or require subsidization by the worker's parents isn't real socialism.

viscousmemories 09-27-2022 12:07 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Shelby (Post 1373937)
I bet you learned how to multi task with very few mistakes.
No, that's not a thing.

https://www.themuse.com/advice/the-s...f-multitasking

It's Me! 09-27-2022 02:42 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
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Stephen Maturin 09-27-2022 04:47 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
"Fast food workers need to EARN $22/hr--they shouldn't have it handed to them."
Smart money sez that an hour into a fast food jerb shift you'd find Signature Collection Boy on the bathroom floor in the fetal position whimpering like a two-year-old with a skinned knee.

ShottleBop 10-01-2022 04:41 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Shelby (Post 1373936)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShottleBop (Post 1373915)
Recently, California passed a law creating a board with the power to set the minimum wage for non-unionized fast-food worker. They're authorized to go as high as $22/hour. (Management-biased description of legisltion here .

I walked to the local grocery store this morning to pick up some apples, celery, and cauliflower for tonight's Rosh Hashanah dinner. Outside the store, someone was collecting signatures on a petition to get an initiative on the ballot to prevent the new law from taking effect. ("Fast food workers need to EARN $22/hr--they shouldn't have it handed to them.") I told him that it was ridiculous to expect someone to live in San Diego County on the current minimum wage, and that $22 seemed more than fair--I'd happily pay more for my fast food if it was going to help someone earn a living wage. (Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be collecting signatures on that petition.)

The guy just sat there.
You're willing to pay more for fast food, which has become atrociously expensive, and sacrifice quality and service? I mean I know it's fast food, but lately it hasn't been that fast. And paying like 12 bucks for meal deal for one person is insane. I'm going to a local pub tonight for burger night and we're paying 5.99 for a burger and fries served to us and is a lot better quality than fast food. What did you expect the guy to do? Argue? He knew he wasn't getting your signature so he probably decided not to say anything.
So go to your local pub and buy your burger there. It's not like you're forced to buy food at a fast-food place.

LarsMac 10-01-2022 11:52 PM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
I don't eat much fast food. When I do it is because I want it fast, not necessarily cheap.

Kamilah Hauptmann 10-02-2022 01:43 AM
Re: Minimum wage blues
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My employee's budget:<br><br>Food: 200<br>Fuel: 250<br>Electricity: 130<br>Internet/Phone: 100<br>Car: 270<br>Rent: 2300<br>Health Insurance: 85<br><br>Someone please help me figure this out my employees are dying<br><br>Is it true what they say<br><br>This is all because noone wants to work anymore isn't it</p>&mdash; UAE Exotic Falconry &amp; Finance (@FalconryFinance) <a href="https://twitter.com/FalconryFinance/status/1569881933894815744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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