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Originally Posted by peacegirl
So who is behind the eyes if not YOU? I don't want to get into a conversation about whether you or I exist or not.
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There is no "who" behind your eyes. Only nerves, skull, and a brain. Your eyes are a part of you. You are not something separate from your eyes, sitting behind them and looking through them like a pair of binoculars.
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
Mmhmm. Now if the particular light at the camera (at the time of the photograph) never previously travelled, then how did it get there? Was it always there, floating around in a cloud? Or did it just materialize there?
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It is there because light is being reflected, but efferent vision allows us to see the object in real time based on what I just explained previously. |
How does "being reflected" answer my question? I know what this means when it is used to say that the light travelled along, bounced off a surface and then arrived at the camera. But you've said the light at the camera never travelled to get there. So does this process of being "reflected" involve the light always having been there at the camera? Or does this process of "reflection" make that light materialize there instantly as the photograph is taken?
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Originally Posted by Spacemonkey
If I tell you there is a car now in my garage, but that it did not get there from anywhere else, are there any other possibilities than that it was either built there or was always there?
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Of course the car had to get there from somewhere else, but we're talking about light and its relationship to the brain. This is not a fair analogy. |
It's a perfect analogy. I can even make the exact same point in purely general terms applicable to both:
If there is some thing X at some point L at some time T, and X never got to L from anywhere else, then are there any other possibilities than that X was either created/came into existence at L, or that X was always there at L?