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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
A mirror image does not explain how the photons at the sun can also be at the camera film. If a mirror image is a duplication then the actual physical photons would also have to duplicated to be at the film interacting. The known properties of light and known properties of film and known requirements for them to chemically react do not allow this. How can the photons that are physically at the sun ALSO physically be at the film without traveling there, appearing there, being two places at once, or teleporting there.
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
You are not letting go of the afferent explanation which is why it appears magical that light interacts with the eye if we're viewing it efferently. I can't win here because you will keep saying that light is not intersecting with the eye. You fail to understand that based on the efferent model, the ballgame changes. You can't get past first base.
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Just saying "mirror images" and "efferent vision" does not explain anything. And I am not talking about vision at all. I am talking about camera film, photons, and chemical interactions, all of which have been proven to have specific properties and follow specific natural laws
You are invoking magic, unless you can explain the physical mechanisms allowing two physically existing things to touch when they are physically separated. If efferent vision requires you change phyiscal principles and laws of nature, then explain those changes as well.
If you cannot explain the mechanism or principle of physics that allows this to happen, then you are speaking nonsense and spreading lies.
So explain it or don't, but quit weaseling.
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
I'm trying to explain, but either you are listening with one ear or you're not listening at all.
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You haven't even attempted an actual explanation even once. No wonder you think Lessans arguments are more than assertion, you don't even know what a real explanation of principles and mechanisms is.
So how about you simply answer the question instead of berating me for my many faults and failures.
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Let's look at it from the perspective of a single photon. That photon is emitted from the sun and is now traveling at 183 thousand miles per second and the camera film it must touch to form a photograph is 93 million miles away. How does that happen? Exactly. Explain the mechanism without changing the properties of light and without changing the properties of camera film, and without changing the requirements of the physical interaction between film and photon, and without invoking or mentioning the brain.
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Because the light
is touching the eye if you can envision what is happening. You can't understand why the light
does interact with the film because you don't understand how efferent vision works. And please don't tell me you do. You can't get beyond the idea that light travels, and something 93 million miles away can therefore not interact with the eye. I agree that light travels, but when we are looking out, through the eyes, what is happening is completely opposite than what has been theorized.