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They are interacting as a mirror image.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
Standard Mirror images can't be interacted with physically (can't shake hands with a mirror image), so you are positing something else. What is it?
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
That's true. How can we interact with a mirror image when that light is at the film/retina. You're thinking in terms of an actual mirror, where I'm trying to explain that when I use this term I mean that there is no travel time between what we see through a lens and what shows up on our retina or the film of a camera. In other words, the mirror image is the (P) reflection on the film/retina when the lens is focused on the object. That is where the interaction takes place in the efferent vision model.
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Then your mirror image analogy is useless for supporting your own claim that AT NOON we could take a photograph of the sun that was turned on AT NOON.
According to Lessans, the photons will not arrive on Earth until 12:08
If your mirror image doesn't allow for two people to shake hands, it can't allow for a picture of the sun, just turned at noon, to be taken at noon. You must wait for the photons to arrive at 12:08 or you must explain a mechanism allowing a single photon to be both at the Sun and being absorbed by camera film on Earth at the same time
Camera film has to have the photons in the same physical location.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
This is due to efferent vision and the fact that the external world reveals itself to us, it does not travel to us.
Begging the question. You are saying "We see with efferent vision because of efferent vision".
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
I've explained efferent vision plenty of times. I even gave you the entire chapter. If you don't understand the 180 degree difference between afferent and efferent, it's no wonder you're failing this course.  |
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Weasel.
You are clearly being asked to provide an explanation for observed phenomena from the efferent vision model not just repeat Lessans assertions that it exists (he failed to explain how it works).
You can't do it. You fail.
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The way this occurs is due to the fact that all that is necessary for this interaction to take place is for light to be around the object and the object to be in range where the lens of the film/retina can focus on the object whereby a mirror image is formed.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
Assertion. Again, all this says is "We can see because we can see it due to things allowing us to see. VOILA WE SEE!"
There is no explanation of the mechanism, there is no description of the physical interaction such as where and how it takes place.
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I'm sorry LadyShea. Some people are just not going to understand what I'm talking about because their minds are already filled with certain concepts and they can't separate them in order to look outside of the conventional box for even a second to see what may be out there.
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Weasel.
We would understand what you were talking about if you used words and sentences that had meaning of some kind.
I am asking clear concise questions about mechanisms and you are answering with "We can see because we can see it due to things allowing us to see. VOILA WE SEE"