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Is your "mirror image" a physically existing thing comprised of matter? If so where is it located in space? If it is only imaginary, it cannot account for photons being in two physical locations at the same time.
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LadyShea, picture that you're looking at an large object in space, and picture the (P) reflected light at your retina. That's the physical location. Your retina or the film interacts with the (P) light as you focus on the object.
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What you are offering is teleportation to the retina or camera film. That is not plausible nor do you offer any explanation as to how this magic happens.
Unless the mirror image is made of matter and actually exists as or in a physical location in space, it cannot be physically interacted with by photons, and therefore cannot explain how we can photograph the sun at noon if it was just turned on at noon and therefore there are no photons on Earth.
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You're incorrect LadyShea. As I just wrote in the previous post, take out the word "reflect" from the discussion and maybe it will help you see how the efferent process allows for this interaction with the light without the photons having to travel to Earth to reach the eyes (or film), and therefore it is not violating the laws of physics. This is the last attempt I am making to try to get you to understand this process, but I don't think it's going to penetrate.
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I am not talking about reflection. No reflection in Lessans example
How can we photograph the sun at noon if it was just turned on at noon and therefore there are no photons on Earth?
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Yes you are LadyShea. You don't see how the connection between "no reflection" and the eyes being efferent, come together to allow us to see the Sun as it explodes in real time. So instead of trying to understand you tell me that this violates the laws of physics. That's too easy of a cop-out.
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I am not asking about seeing the sun. I am asking about photographing the sun, which requires a photon at the newly ignited sun at noon being in physical contact with camera film on Earth at noon where no photons are.
Put a marble (representing a photon) on a table (the sun) then walk 6 feet away and put an envelope (camera film) on another table (the Earth). Your job is to explain how that marble can get into that envelope (absorption) without either the marble or envelope moving.
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It's due to the non-absorbed light that the lens is focusing.
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The photon and camera film physically exist, just like the marble and the envelope, and they are in different physical locations in Lessans example of the Sun being turned on at noon so the Earth is dark until the photons arrive on Earth until 12:08. No amount of lenses or brains or eye windows can get that marble into the envelope without movement (traveling). Your only option is for the physical properties of the two physically existing things to change somehow, or for one or both of them to teleport, or one of them to physically manifest in another location as a duplicate.
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You can't compare a marble with light LadyShea. Marbles have to travel to get from one place to another, so this is a bad analogy. The non-absorbed light is present as long as the object is present. As I have said many times, it really doesn't matter how far away something is as long as it's large enough and bright enough to be seen. If that object is within our field of view, that light will be present at the film if the lens is focusing that light. You must bear in mind at all times that when we look at an object, that object reveals itself through it's absorption properties. But that non-absorbed light is not being reflected as in (N) light. This is where everyone is extremely confused.