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If someone dies, there is no more electrical activity. There are no more inner or outer movements of any kind.
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Death is no more a static state than is life. Have you never heard of the process of decomposition?
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So glad that you enjoyed it. Now, how about my question? Are you unfamiliar with the process of decomposition? Death is quite dynamic and not at all a static state. There are all kinds of changes taking place and I don't think that any of that movement can reasonably be described as in the direction of greater satisfaction. Greater putrefaction, to be sure, but satisfaction does not even enter into it. |
Angakuk, I have to answer you because I feel like people are so lost, it makes me upset. When he talked about death as opposed to life, he hadn't even begun his proof. This observation has nothing to do with greater satisfaction. He was only making one observation, and one observation only. That death is the opposite of life. I hope you can answer this question without equivocation because it seems like the most obvious facts will be contested in here, just to deny that anything Lessans says is right. This isn't a trick question, so here goes:
When a person is dead, have you ever seen them move from the spot they're on to another spot? In other words, do they have the ability to move a hairs breath of their own volition? I know that in science fiction movies people come out of their graves or people embody the souls of another. But in this life, have you ever seen an individual come back to life after they died? |
I have not personally witnessed it, but I have met people who were described as having died on an operating table and then been restored to life. Whether or not that meets your criteria is another matter.
In any case, the question you are asking me does not address the question I asked you. You claimed that death is a static condition. I have shown you that death is anything but static. Decay and decomposition are quite dynamic processes. Do you disagree with that?
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I'm trying to explain why man's will is not free so you will accept it willingly. Only then can we move on.
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Seriously? It is not enough for you that someone understands the argument, such as it is, they also have to accept it before the discussion can move forward? Have you any idea of how arrogant, not to mention hopeless, that position is?
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Why can't you tell me what you got from Chapter One, if anything?
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Other than that Lessans never defined "greater satisfaction"? Nothing of any value I'm afraid, though it was quite entertaining.
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What a cop out!! You of all people I'm disappointed in. I don't think you read it. You couldn't have read it and given me answer like that.  |
Of course he can. Given that there is nothing of value in that chapter the only honest answer possible is that he got he nothing of value out of it.