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Originally Posted by Angakuk
Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyShea
The only way to see something that has not existed and does not exist is in one's imagination.
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You forget that Lessans considered that the ability to imagine some future condition was sufficient evidence for the truth of that future condition.
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No, that's not what he was saying. He was not saying to imagine some future condition as proof of his knowledge. The truth of our nature was already uncovered. But in order to see this truth, he wanted people to recognize it for themselves. Because we are all part of this law, we can actually see it for ourselves if we place ourselves (in imagination) in the new world environment. There are those who might not be able to imagine how they would feel under changed conditions, but that doesn't change the fact that they would have no choice but to change their ways (if they were acting unscrupulously), once they became citizens of this new world.
This is why he wrote this passage. Maybe reading it again will help you better understand what he meant by "there is a dragon for each person." Do you understand what he means by "fiery dragon"?
Decline and Fall of All Evil: Chapter One: The Hiding Place: pp. 45-46
“That’s just the point. Once it is discovered through
mathematical reasoning that man’s will is definitely not free, then it
becomes impossible to blame an individual for what he is compelled
to do; consequently, it is imperative that we discover a way to prevent
his desire to do the very things for which blame and punishment were
previously necessary, as the lesser of two evils.”
“This new world which looks good, sounds good, and seems
theoretically possible in its blueprint form so far (since you haven’t
shown me yet how to rid the world of war and crime — two most
important items), it may be just another dream, and even if it isn’t,
it took the Greeks two millennium to convince mankind that the
earth was a sphere. Even today, there are still some people who don’t
believe it, so how do you expect people to listen to something that not
only sounds impossible, but is so far removed from contemporary
thought?”
“This is the stumbling block I am faced with.”
“Are you telling me that this discovery, whatever it is, will prevent
man from desiring to commit murder, rape, start a war, annihilate 6
million people, etc., is that right?”
“That’s correct. The corollary, Thou Shall Not Blame, when it
is extended does not mean that we will be forced to condone what
hurts us, but we will be shown how to prevent these evils by
mathematically extending the corollary. And the amazing thing is
that both sides of this equation are correct. Christ said, “Turn the
other cheek” and Durant said, “This is impossible.” Just think about
this for one moment. Would you believe that both principles are
mathematically correct?”
“How is that possible?”
“God made the reconciliation of these two principles the time
when He would reveal Himself to all mankind. But to get here you
can see what had to be done first since the paths leading up to this
understanding were camouflaged with layers upon layers of words that
concealed the truth.”
“Is proving that man’s will is not free the key to open the door and
your second discovery?”
“Of course not; I just told you that the fiery dragon must be killed
to get the key. First, I must prove that man’s will is not free so we
can come face to face with the fiery dragon (the great impasse of
blame), and I will prove it in a mathematical, undeniable manner.
Then I shall jab him in the right eye, then the left, then I shall cut
out his tongue. I took fencing lessons for the job. And finally I shall
pierce him in his heart. Then when I have made certain he is dead.”
“I thought you killed him already.”
“I did, but there was a dragon for each person, so instead
of giving everybody a sword; steel is high these days, I shall slay him
so the whole world can see he is dead.” (He was making a joke
about steel being high these days. He did have a sense of humor)
“Do you mean to tell me there is absolutely no way all evil can be
removed from our lives without knowledge of your discovery?”
“That’s absolutely true.”
“Then your discovery must be the most fantastic thing ever
discovered.”
“It truly is because God is showing us the way at last. However,
before I show how it is possible to resolve the implications, it is
necessary to repeat that I will proceed in a step by step manner. This
dragon has been guarding an invisible key and door for many years,
and this could never be made visible except for someone who saw these
undeniable relations.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angakuk
According to Lessans we can demonstrate for ourselves the truth of certain propositions simply by imagining how things would be if those propositions were true. You can test this for yourself. Simply try to imagine yourself striking a first blow in a world where there is no blame.
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He wanted you to use yourself as a guinea pig in order to see how powerful this law really is. But in order to do this, you must imagine living in a world where you would not be blamed or be held responsible for hurting others even when you know
you would be responsible. He wanted you to see how it is impossible to move in this direction; in fact, the very thought of this makes you want to stay as far away from this type of situation as you possibly can (and this applies to everyone) because it can give you no satisfaction whatsoever to hurt others with a first blow when you cannot justify your actions.