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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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There is a lot of controversy surrounding the speed of neutrinos, therefore it is premature to use this as evidence in favor of afferent vision.
Neutrinos still faster than light in latest version of experiment | Science | guardian.co.uk
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LOL, we know they do not travel instantaneously, meaning they do not teleport. The controversy surrounds nanoseconds only.
We know they travel right around the speed of light, so my point stands and you're just weaseling.
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If Lessans was correct and we see in real time, with no light travel delay, we would always, always see the supernova quite some time (decades at least) before we detected the neutrinos (because the neutrinos do travel)...without exception.
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That's like seeing solar flares at the same time radio waves are being detected. It's true that we would detect light, but to say that this light travels with an image or pattern of an event (that contains substance) although the event has been gone for millions of years is exactly what is being disputed. I like the example of Columbus discovering America because it's easy to understand what I'm talking about, as opposed to Supernovas that are made up of gases. You can think I'm weaseling all you want.