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Old 09-23-2012, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: A revolution in thought

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Originally Posted by peacegirl View Post
Uncaused events do not imply freedom of the will Spacemonkey. And there is a contradiction in terms if you use the standard definition of determinism. If something is caused, then it can't be uncaused.
Who are you arguing against? I've never said that uncaused events imply free will, or that something can be both caused and uncaused.

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The definition of determinism that Lessans proposes is true in both actual circumstances and all possible coutnerfactual circumstances, so it is a necessary truth...
Which is what renders it a tautology of no relevance to free will or the accepted definition of determinism. It fails to rule out any form of free will worth having (as it doesn't rule out any form of free will which is even coherently possible). What are not necessary truths are the conclusions he invalidly infers from his tautologous premise.
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