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You are wrong to the point where I feel nauseous.
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The above is still not a rational response. Neither regular determinism nor Lessans' redefinition of it rules out compatibilist free will, and Lessans' version doesn't even rule out contra-causal free will.
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Huh? I am not saying determinism is false. I am saying the thesis or proposition that is now standard is causing the problem because it is defining determinism as a causal event, when nothing causes anything. Previous events do not cause us to act a certain way.
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That is saying that determinism is false. That is what you are saying.
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There are no should's Spacemonkey.
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Without shoulds there is no morality.
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If you have any inkling that there could be something to this, then join the new forum that I am working hard to produce. But there you will need to be on good behavior. That doesn't mean that "good behavior" is blind acceptance.
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Yes, it does. That is all you will tolerate. And no, obviously I am not going to join your forum.
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The moderators would never ban people for having questions, but they will not tolerate the vindictiveness and the outright sneering that people are showing in this thread.
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Who are the moderators? Are they as imaginary as your supporters?
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I am trying to show you that it is not just true by virtue of meaning.
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Then it is an empirical claim, and as such cannot be established independently of evidence, of which you have none.
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There you go again speaking for other people. Do you know everyone that is lurking? Do you think that maybe they see some validity in some of the things I share?
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Why do you keep imagining there to be lurkers with completely opposite views to every single person who actually posts here? If there are people out there who think you are making sense, then why has not one of them spoken up at any of the forums you have visited?
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There are lurkers here because this is an open forum that they happened to join. Just because they are lurking does not mean they are in total agreement that Lessans is automatically wrong because of you and LadyShea, NA, and thedoc's objections.
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Apparently you are completely unfamiliar with the concept of inductive inference. When ALL of the people you
have talked to are convinced Lessans was wrong, what makes you think that any lurkers you have yet to talk to think any differently? Why do you keep imagining these lurkers will have completely opposite views to every single person who actually posts here? If there are people out there who think you are making sense, then why has not one of them spoken up at any of the forums you have visited?
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Why does it matter why I'm here? Why are you here?
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Again, why are
you here? Why do you keep coming back to a forum where everyone thinks you're nuts? Doesn't this strike you as rather odd behavior?