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Because we don't have free will. Therefore to say that it doesn't rule out contra-causal free will is incorrect.
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Even if we absolutely don't have free will, as Lessans defined free will, that does not mean his explanation/definition ruled out all possible forms of free will. |
Oh really, show me which free will we have that is not ruled out, since you know so much LadyShea. After all, you're the best detective there is in this part of the internet.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
If free will is defined as the ability to contemplate and choose between multiple possible alternatives, it is not ruled out.
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That's true, if you're going by the old definition. I am presenting a better, more accurate definition, in which case it rules out ALL FREE WILL ENTIRELY. You have absolute no understanding of what this man is even presenting. It's best if you listen and not talk.
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rules out the ability to choose another alternative than the one which was chosen.
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We can't choose what we did not choose because we can't go back in time. Yes, this is a trivial truth.
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Trivial? Then show me how we can prove free will by not going back in time, which is impossible. If you can prove free will without having to do this, you will win the Nobel Prize. It's up for grabs, so do your best.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
We can, however try multiple alternatives subsequently. If I chose to go right at one moment, I can go back to that intersection and try left at any later point.
If I chose not to speak 5 minutes ago, I can choose to speak now.
If I did A before I can do B now and do C tomorrow.
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What????
This is exactly in keeping with Lessans. You better go back and reread the whole book. You're lost LadyShea.
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So choosing other than what was chosen is not ruled out completely, we simply have to choose one option at a time is all.
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And that option, once it is chosen, could not have been otherwise. So there is no free will LadyShea. You're arguing against yourself because your basic belief is in determinism. This is really funny to me.
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And, speaking from a theoretical viewpoint, it's possible that we make all possible choices at every moment in time, just in different universes.
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Ha ha, and you are supporting science, not science fiction? Then go to your parallel universe and live a good life LadyShea. Maybe I'll join you there one day and we can have coffee together.
