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No it doesn't, but you can't use this analogy to conclude that because we don't understand the complete workings of the brain, that the possibility that Lessans is right should now be compared to a fairy tale.
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Nor was I saying that. What I am saying is that you cannot use it to make his ideas seem plausible.
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No, that is not what I said. I said that scientists don't know everything, so that should give you pause before jumping to premature conclusions that Lessans is wrong.
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It rather is what you said. You said "why cant people wait for future evidence to show up?"
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Originally Posted by Vivisectus
I am always surprised when people say that, because it means that any silly statement must be given equal weight: we never know, some evidence may surface! We don't know everything about anything yet, so I guess that must mean anything is equally possible now!
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No, there are many things that are not possible, but this discovery is within the realm of possibility because it is based on immutable laws that control the mankind system.
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No, the ideas about sight are clearly impossible. I have already pointed that out in the other post, and you failed to address any of the points in there.
The rest can only be tested by applying it to entire societies, and is completely unsupported.
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Again, that's not what they are saying. They are saying that their beliefs are valid until proven otherwise. It's amazing to think that the faith of those people who trusted in God; who believed that one day we would be delivered from evil, was not in vain.
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This would mean that we should also assume that it is plausible that elves exist, that the world flies through space on the back of a giant turtle, and that heart-attacks are caused by witches. At least if we are to use
your standards of evidence.
Also, they ignore the fact that this also means that directly opposing beliefs must be considered valid as they also have not been disproven.
That is sort of the point, which you seem to have missed. No-one has ever proven that diseases are not caused by evil spells. What they have done is found evidence that suggests very strongly that there are different causes, such as virusses.
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You are so completely off base, it disturbs me. This man did more reading and studying than you'll ever do on one pinky.
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It does not seem to have done him much good. Nor does it seem to have included any fact-checking, or perhaps getting even a
little bit acquainted with the fields he was making broad sweeping statements about. Basic logic, philosophy 101, a simply biology textbook and perhaps an introduction to basic physics are all conspicuous by their absence from his reading matter.
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This is not about an assumption Vivisectus, just because he didn't start off with a hypothesis.
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It is opinion. He did not support it in any way. If not - why should be assume conscience works the way he said?
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How dare you conclude that he was lazy or didn't actually learn anything, or was too proud to admit he didn't understand something, or that this was just a belief that he couldn't part with.
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Actually I am calling
you lazy. As the originator of the belief, I am merely calling him ignorant. Although he did have
decades to acquire a basic high-school grade knowledge of physics and optics, which he seems to have neglected to do. He also seems to have not found the time to find any evidence. Or even to make a compelling case for his idea.
You know what? I changed my mind. I
am calling him lazy after all. He was happy just making claims, and then pretending he did the work to
check and
support those claims. He did not do any of the actual work that is required, but wanted to claim the recognition anyway.
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Five centuries of enlightenment has not given us the answers we've been searching for. So who is dumping on whom Vivisectus? Could it be that you, in your pride, cannot even begin to entertain the possibility that a discovery was made without your approval?
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If it is merely my pride that is keeping me from accepting this, then you should be able to tell me that I am wrong and that there
is evidence, or even just a compelling reason to believe it works that way. I should be irrational, and it should be easy to point this out.
But you never do. You say "You just don't believe it because you are a meanie!" and leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by Vivisectus
People who, as a rule, are now better fed, in better health, have access to more knowledge, who can travel more and see more of the world, and generally have a far superior life because of people who did not think that way, and in stead worked very hard to learn just a little bit more about the world around us.
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Who is taking credit away from those who have made our world better? You are making a total fool of yourself Vivisectus by implying that in order to appreciate where we have come, that somehow we can't appreciate this discovery, which, by the way, will move us further along than ever thought possible. Again, this does not deny that we, as a species, haven't grown by leaps and bounds. This law of our nature, once understood and applied globally, will just take us to a whole new level.
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Well, you are, really. You say there is no need for a rational approach: we should all just believe lessans, because he said so! And if we object, you say that this is not rational, because despite all the evidence pointing in the other direction, there could be something about the brain which we do not know yet which would make it NOT impossible for him to be right!
As I already pointed out - we don't know everything about the amazon jungle, so maybe elves live there! You cannot prove they don't, so by your logic that makes them plausible!
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Originally Posted by Vivisectus
Just because there is a lot more to learn does not mean that anything goes. There is no excuse for such a feckless attitude.
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