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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
There are any number of things you can't account for when speaking about something like conscience, which is individually developed in each person. Especially when discussing over 6 billion individual people with their own versions of conscience.
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But you are failing to understand that conscience works in a very predictable way in all human beings |
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
I understand that you believe that because Lessans said it. What you seem to not understand, though we keep asking you to explain and support it, is that neither Lessans nor you have given anyone any valid reason to believe that is true at all.
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I'm asking you to read the book (do you think it's fair that you won't take the time to read a 600 page book so that your facts are correct?). Conscience will allow horrible despicable behavior if there is a justification for it, and there are ways people can justify and rationalize their behavior. But when these justifications and rationalizations are no longer possible because of this new condition that has been introduced into the environment, behavior takes a different turn and because of this conscience takes a different turn, an amazing turn because it will not allow someone to hurt another without a justification for doing so.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
Why should we think conscience works in a very predictable way in all human beings? What support do you have for that, either evidence or argument?
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There is a tremendous amount of support for this. Lessans was right in that conscience, like human beings, are controlled by preestablished laws. If you look carefully you will see that everyone who does something to hurt someone has a reason for it, whether that reason is justified in our minds or not. That's not the point. The point is that the justification in his mind is valid, which gives him the freedom to strike back. If there is no hurt to him that he can justify this retaliation, he cannot hurt others helter skelter. He can't do it. |
Where is the support? All you are doing is asserting that it is so.
I counter that conscience develops in individuals over time just as personality does, and so remains unpredictable and very individual. I can support this by showing you that every human has slightly different ideas about right and wrong, and feel different degrees of guilt about different things.