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Old 12-09-2012, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: A revolution in thought

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He's also a proponent of torture

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Originally Posted by Sam Harris
I am one of the few people I know of who has argued in print that torture may be an ethical necessity in our war on terror. In the aftermath of Abu Ghraib, this is not a comfortable position to have publicly adopted.
Sam Harris: In Defense of Torture

LOL, yeah I am so arrogant to think he is a douchebag!
Did you even read the article? Did you understand his reasoning? What would you do if your child was close to a ticking timb bomb? Would torture sound more reasonable to you if you could not find out where this bomb was located any other way? You not only have misinterpreted why he said what he said, you have set yourself up as god of sorts (here comes de judge), and you are slandering his reputation in the process.
Sounds also like:

UNTHINKABLE.

Have you seen it peace girl? Has any body seen it?



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H questions whether Yusef will reveal the bombs' location unless Yusuf's wife is found. When she is detained, H brings her in front of her husband and threatens to mutilate her in front of him. Brody and the others begin to take her away from the room in disgust. Out of desperation, H slashes her throat and she bleeds to death in front of Yusuf. Still without cooperation, H tells the soldiers to bring in Yusuf's two children, a young boy and a girl. Outside of Yusuf's hearing, he assures everyone that he will not harm the children. Yusef's children are brought in and H makes it clear that he will torture them if the locations of the bombs are not divulged. Yusuf breaks and gives three addresses (in New York, Los Angeles and Dallas), but H does not stop, forcing the others to intervene. Citing the amount of missing nuclear material Yusuf potentially had at his disposal (some 15–18 lbs. were reported missing, with about 4½ lbs. needed per device), H insists that Yusuf has not admitted anything about a hence-unreferenced fourth bomb. H points out that everything Yusuf has done so far has been planned meticulously. He knew the torture would most likely break him, and he would have been certain to plant a fourth bomb, just in case.

Here it becomes clear that the purpose of the preceding torture was not to break Yusuf, but rather to make it clear to him what would happen to his children if he did not cooperate.

The official in charge of the operation demands that H bring Yusuf's children back in for further interrogation. H demands that Brody bring the children back in, because her decency will give him the moral approval that he needs to do the "unthinkable". When Brody refuses to retrieve the children for H, he unstraps Yusuf, sarcastically setting him free. The official draws his pistol and aims it at H to coerce him into further interrogation. Yusuf grabs the official's gun. He asks Brody to take care of his children and kills himself. Brody walks out of the building with Yusuf's children
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Last edited by Awareness; 12-09-2012 at 10:06 PM. Reason: I miss Livius, is she uh he uh she allright?
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