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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
I am asking YOU to refute my claim or support your own using your own reasoning. Can you do so?
Here is my concise claim to help you along:
Immaterial concepts with variable, subjective meanings can be neither proven nor disproven
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Just because a concept is immaterial does not mean it has a variable subjective meaning. |
I didn't say all material concepts have variable, subjective meanings, but most do, and both free will and determinism certainly do.
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This knowledge is objective because it is describing an observation that is part of the real world.
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Determism can be objectively observed? How? |
By observation LadyShea. You cannot prove it through empirical testing because no matter what choice you make, is in this direction. But that does not change a deeper truth, which I've explained to you but you ignore.
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The concept of determinism is anything but variable or subjective
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
Sure it is. Different people understand and define the concept differently...that is variable and subjective meaning.
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No no no, you can't get away with that. It is not subjective at all. Again, you can define something any way you want but the only one that matters is the one that is reflective of reality. I don't care how many definitions there are LadyShea. The bottom line is we can't have both determinism and free will. Therefore, one is right and the other is a delusion.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
You are again merely asserting that it can be proven not explaining how.
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Oh my goodness. I have explained his observations and all you do is tell me it's a tautology. You will not listen, so now you're on your own.