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Old 06-28-2013, 01:40 PM
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Your claims about organized light are incorrect and confused. You need to reboot.
Oh really? Show me how right you are when you don't have your cronies to back you up. Can you show me without this backup? I really doubt it.

Edited version: Oh really? Show me how right you are when you don't have your cronies to back you up. You are so self-righteous because you don't know what is true, only what you have been taught is true. You don't have an independent thought in your head. :eek:
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I did show you when I said this, which you conveniently ignored. No cronies "backing me up"
Everytime people thank you at the end of the post, they are backing you up. You don't think this gives you emotional support? Also, you have science to back you up. Even if you don't understand everything, if science says it's right, that means it's right.
My demonstration was that some organized light is invisible and some disorganized light is visible, refuting your claims that organization determines visibility. Note also that you claimed flashlights are organized light, which they are not according to the very article you cited. I also stated that light is photons, refuting your claim that organized light is not the same as photons. All light is the same as photons because light is photons.

I didn't need emotional support by way of thanks to show you I was right. And thanks, should they come, are done after the fact so have nothing to do with what I post. Some of my posts are thanked and some aren't. I stand behind all of them.
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Light is photons. Organized light is organized photons. There are invisible lasers (infrared), which are organized light, and there is visible light that is not organized...like sunlight.
I am not talking about infrared light.
You were talking about organized light being visible, while disorganized light is not visible, and the organization determining visibility, and organized light being different from photons.

Nowhere in this discussion about organized light did you mention that wavelength was a factor in visibility, you said only organization.

Infrared lasers produce organized light which is photons, but is not visible. What I said was factual and what you said was not.

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Haven't we been talking about the visible spectrum this whole time, so why move the goalposts now?
I didn't move the goalposts, you did. We are talking about organized light causing visibility, you never said wavelength was a factor. Now it suddenly is...because you had no idea at all what you were talking about when you said the following (notice the lack of mentions of wavelength):
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That is true LadyShea, but there are different configurations of light that make some visible and some not. Laser light is visible because it's organized light. We can see headlights too, because it's organized light. It's light used in a certain way. Flashlights are organized so we are able to see the light that is emitted differently than what a photon provides. Photons provide light, but they aren't organized in the same way.
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Organized light is different than photons, even though it's all light. That's why we can see light coming from a laser, or we can see words on a computer screen, but we can't see photons.
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