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Originally Posted by davidm
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
You missed the whole point of the conversation; it went right over your head thedoc. He was showing that it can never be proven that someone could have chosen otherwise. It cannot be done. You can believe he could have chosen B instead of A, but you cannot prove it. There is no smokescreen here, as you're trying to imply so you can be right and Lessans wrong. But it will fail every time because it's you that's wrong.
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Except that is not what you have argued here. You have argued that some contingently true proposition x becomes necessarily true after the event occurs that the proposition describes. On this account, the proposition "Oswald kills JFK" is contingently true until Oswald pulls the trigger; after he does, the proposition is necessarily true. This is your claim. And it's wrong. |
Obviously, no one can predict how something will play out until after the fact, but that does not change the fact that our choices are necessarily made based on antecedent conditions. They are not free in any sense of the word.