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If you would go to Wayne Stewart's book, begin at chapter nine and read all the way through to the end, all these questions will be answered. Whether you find the reasoning valid or sound is another matter, but I suggest it's important to get right on the concept that Lessans, Clark and Stewart are advocating.
Nobody "gets" any germinal substance, or anything else physical. To quote Wayne from chapter eleven:
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As before no "thing" transfers through the existential passage, either from Nicos to Thanos, or else from Magnus to Thanos. The existential passage remains purely subjective.
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You rail at Peacegirl for not providing a synopsis of the book, and now you tell me I need to go read a book rather than give me a brief account of the relevant concepts? |
Er, but I AM giving you a brief account.
As to the rest, subjective awareness created ex nihilo happens under EP, as does merger: One, two, three or many people die, and subjective continuity from all those people continues in only one future person. There can also be splits: subjectivity continuity continuance from dead x to newborn twins y and z, for example.
BTW, Wayne's book isn't that long, and especially to get to the main point you can skip the first eight chapters and read from Chapter 9 on. I don't see why doing so is such a big deal, if you want to discuss this. In the case of peacegirl, several of us, including you I believe, DID read the whole book; what we were contesting is her own inability, ever, to provide her own summary of the main points, in her own words. Now I have summarized Wayne's thesis for you; if I've erred, as I say, I expect he will inform me. |
OK, I read chapter 9 and parts of the other chapters, it seems that Wayne is proposing several possibilities for 'Passage' that would account for multiple births with not enough deaths, and multiple deaths with not enough births. It really gets very speculative.
Oh, Sorry about the outburst yesterday, I was just frustrated that it seemed like no-one was addressing the actual question but answering side issues.