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Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Obviously it would be misleading if I said it. And we could argue it is even a little bit misleading when you say it, as you should certainly know better by now. But you don't, so we cannot consider this terribly deceptive.

You lost me.

3: Re-edit your book and get it set up on Lulu.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Nonsense. Laziness, self-sabotage, and more of your interminable excuses. What you are telling me is "I'd save the world, but I am too tired to edit a book". Good grief. There is a problem. It needs fixing if you want to move forward.

I don't think it does need fixing. I worked hard on this book to clarify the concepts, and I think I did a good job. I anticipated the questions that I believed people would have in order that I leave no gap in their understanding.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

...And now you switch to excuse number 2: that you do not think the book needs changing. But obviously it does: it's current form makes it much, much harder to spread.

The size of it, yes, but I am offering a discount. Hopefully that will encourage those who are seriously interested to buy it.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

It seems you have no intention of doing anything about this: you have already decided this, and you are just looking for some excuse to justify this decision.

I cannot start over again. It's too much money to pay another publishing company. I have to work with what I have.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

I suspect that later on you will happily use your own decision to not do anything about it as some sort of excuse for the books lack of acceptance, as an excuse not to really try to market it.

I am going to market it Vivisectus and use some of your ideas.

I am satisfied with the book. When it was only 144 pages people complained so he reduced it to 89 pages. Then people said it was too simplified. He couldn't win. I tried to clarify his concepts by giving more detailed examples. I used my own noodle, and I believe it's well written. I did the best I can, and that's all I can ask of myself.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

That only works in kindergarten. In the real world, you need results. As it stands you seem to have created a really awkward, hard-to-sell format.

Only because of the size and the fact that the price is a little high. That's also why I hope to send the book to people who could possibly be instrumental by giving me an endorsement and maybe helping in other ways.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

But fine: don't change it. The numbers will speak for themselves in the end.

True, and I will survey the results. That's what the program Cory Rudl talked about at length. Always test the results to see what changes need to be made.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

]5: Based on your value-statement and keeping in mind the keywords you have selected, begin to generate some content for your site.

You're funny. The problem is I don't know wordpress at all. I have to take a course because I'm better at hands-on learning.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Just get it - or any other tool. Hell, you can do basic HTML in frikking wordpad if you want. Start messing with it. It really is not terribly hard.

I'm calling my great nephew tomorrow. He's just starting a web designer business. He might want to help me considering it was his great grandfather.

Content. Something for people to read, think about, maybe interact with and respond to. Write applications of your book to real-live situations, blog entries that talk about a specific part of it... anything. Write material about the book. You really have far too little: there is nothing there to capture someone's interest. There is next to nothing on there for people to engage with.

How can I do that when they don't understand the foundational principles? I guess that would be okay; I see it all the time...people offering promises as a selling point.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Not sales stuff - examples of your ideas at work in everyday situations. Or a look into a small aspect of one of the points discussed in the book, with plenty of "As is explained int he book (name of book)," references. An illustrative little story perhaps. You know. Something for people to engage with, to give them an idea of the kind of material they are likely to find.

I have to think about what I could include.

Where am I blackmailing you emotionally? I don't expect anything from you, so whatever I get is like icing on the cake.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

I am talking about the way you argue about your book. It features quite a bit of it.

Arguing for the book is not emotional blackmail.

You're already back to your old ways? Your good behavior didn't even last half a day!

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

When did I ever give you the impression I had changed my mind on any of that? I think you are sadly deluded. But hey, perhaps I can keep you from dropping more money (you claimed to have sunk tens of thousands into it thus far at one stage) and you may even learn something useful when you start to [I]actually do something about any of this.

This saying is very appropos: Walk a mile in my shoes and then you would understand my position. Until then, please keep your criticisms to a minimum.

I have spent a lot of money just redoing the book, converting the tapes to a CD and then to an MP3, and paying my formatter.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Well, why don't you ever do anything? Why does everything take so incredibly long? It is not like you work or anything. Youi basically have all day to spend on this, don't you?

No I don't. I have other things to do besides this. I have to fit this in. If I started making some money I would be encouraged because then I could use that money to fund this project and maybe make enough to actually advertise. But you have to crawl before you walk.

Vivisectus, I have just spent a lot of years polishing this book. The marketing aspect is not my forte. I am inviting people to give me advice for this reason. But it's not that easy for me to get this going without help. As I stated, I don't know wordpress at all. I don't know how to use the dashboard even. It's all very new to me. Can't you give me a break?

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

I think you need a break from breaks, and that you should try doing some work so you get something to take a break from.

Would you please stop it. It hasn't even been a week since I got my hardback copy. Let me relax for a bit before you put me on a treadmill again.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Thats not what the book says.

That's true but when I say it can improve marriage (which it can) but they start reading about determinism, they may think they bought the wrong book. I don't want people to be misled.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

You are being dishonest again: we were not talking about that at all. We were talking about your excuse, which was that trying to get people to read the book is like getting people to read and understand Einsteins theorems. I pointed out that this is a poor analogy as the book requires no technical knowledge. And it doesn't. What is more, it says so.

It still is not easy reading, especially the first three chapters. Even philosophers well versed in this subject can easily be confused.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Why do you always do that? It is very disrespectful. I really am not that stupid you know.

I've lost track of the conversation. I never am disrespectful unless I am spoken to disrespectfully.

But that pdf was not a finished product which I didn't know at the time.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Right. You and a 100-year hermit in the Appalachians are the only 2 people left on the planet who never heard of an e-book I guess. Good grief. Are there any other gaps I need to know about?

I have an ebook on my site. I'm not sold yet on selling the whole book as a pdf. Maybe I'm behind the times and it will take a little more thought.

Nothing. The customer service is out of the Phillipines. I have never met such a polite group of people in my life.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

Well that's a relief.

Have it your way: we won't be improving the accesability and spread of a the book that will save the world because the outsourcing company that handles the support for Traffords are nice and polite. Since you won't be putting it into a more manageable size anyway it will not make the slightest difference in any case.

The customer service is very efficient, not just polite. I cannot cut the book in half. It's all related. 600 pages is not that big although it costs a lot because I can't mass market it. I just hope money won't be an object for people who are truly interested.

I will. It all seems very overwhelming which is probably why I took a break and came back to the forum. Researching this topic and learning how to apply what I have learned is a course in itself.

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

But what have you actually done so far? Except being perpetually overwhelmed?

I'm reading all kinds of stuff. Like social marketing, for one.

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