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Old 09-11-2013, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lisarea View Post
Now I want to say some more stuff.

I think the real insidious part about things like that, and the reason I feel so awful for young girls who witness it, is the objectification of women. Not even the sexual objectification, but the fact that women are never the subjects or the presumed audience.

Even in the mainstream media, you are never ever going to see anyone genericizing studies done on women. Heart disease studies done on men are "health and medicine" stories, heart disease studies done on women are "women's health" stories. If you did a study that showed that heterosexual women's blood pressure fell or something when they were exposed to man sweat, the headlines wouldn't be "Male sweat lowers blood pressure." They'd make sure to tack on "in women" there. (Nevermind the heterosexism and other normativity, even, for now.) You almost wouldn't even know that there are probably about as many straight women as there are straight men.

But in tech industry things, it's even worse, and people are even more oblivious somehow. It at least used to be really common to punctuate tech talks with pictures of sexy ladies "just to make sure everyone is still awake lol" and things like that.

The idea that someone for whatever reason might actually be AMBIVALENT about looking at women's breasts literally would never occur to them. They're going to go on and on and on talking about how 'you' can improve your heart health by ogling women's breasts, based on a fake study of heterosexual men, and that 9 year old is learning that the presumption of maleness is so ingrained that someone can be talking right to her face and still not notice her there.

And the thing is, after working and being around that sort of thing long enough, you get used to it to the point that you barely even notice that you were being constantly being treated like you aren't there. Some women even play along, pretending to be gayer than they are, and/or treating other women badly, just to fit in and get approval from men.

The sexualizing is a problem, too, but it's really compounded by the fact that seemingly the only time they even notice that women exist is when they're sexualizing them.
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That means like I read that is some serious brain stuff and shit because I know words and shit.

Sometimes I'm as if I mean also like some I have brain and shit.

There is this perfessor and You know yeah. He's a real scietnce teacher egghead and something. Logically talking, you yeah I mean.

I always punctuate my techno talks with pictures of sexy ladies just to make sure everyone is still awake and that stuff like that.

You know, I'm also not really dumb and shit like the other day where that skinny nerd sez to me in the shower: "Looks real smart on you, that muscle stuff."

Last edited by But; 09-11-2013 at 10:39 PM. Reason: I'ma have some school stories like you
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