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Originally Posted by peacegirl
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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But even the idea of herd immunity is coming under scrutiny. This is a separate issue that needs further investigation. Also, the whole idea of vaccinations versus natural immunization is being studied to determine which gives a person greater long term immunity.
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Long term immunity isn't important to dead children, is it?
- Before 1985, Haemophilus Influenzae type b (Hib) caused serious infections in 20,000 children each year, including meningitis (12,000 cases) and pneumonia (7,500 cases).1 In 2002, there were 34 cases of Hib disease.
- In the 1964-1965 epidemic, there were 12.5 million cases of rubella (German measles).2 Of the 20,000 infants born with congenital rubella syndrome, 11,600 were deaf, 3,580 were blind, and 1,800 were mentally retarded as a result of the infection.2 There were 9 cases of rubella in 2004 and only four cases of congenital rubella between 2001 and 2004.
- Before 1963, more than 3 million cases of measles and 500 deaths from measles were reported each year.2 More than 90% of children had measles by age 15.2 In 2002, there were 44 cases of measles
- In 1952, polio paralyzed more than 21,000 people.2 In 2002, there were no cases of polio in the United States.
- In the early 1940s, there was an average of 175,000 cases of pertussis (whooping cough) per year, resulting in the deaths of 8,000 children annually.2 In 2002, 9,771 cases were reported.
- In the 1920s, there were 100,000 to 200,000 cases of diphtheria each year and 13,000 people died from the disease.2 In 2002, there was only one case of diphtheria in the United States.
Vaccine Effectiveness - National Network for Immunization Information
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So much has changed since then, that you can't use this to defend the vaccine schedule given today. You're talking about a half century ago LadyShea, and don't tell me that if we stopped vaccinations today, all of these diseases would come back. More research has to be done. Just to let you know, you are just as biased, or more so, in your beliefs (and they are beliefs) that vaccinations don't cause harm, than I am in believing that they do. Let the best man win.
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Yes, one of the changes is that we have vaccines against diseases now that we didn't have previously. If we stopped vaccines today those diseases would absolutely come back, because they aren't actually gone. They still exist on the Earth somewhere, they are still out there killing children, and would spread.