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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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it's been reported that children get measles even after they have been vaccinated.
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Some children, yes. There are cases where the vaccines don't work in an individual, for whatever reason. This is one of the reasons to push for herd immunity, to protect those that can't be immunized for medical reasons, and those for whom the vaccine does not protect.
That being said, of the 160 cases of measles in the US this year, 131 were unvaccinated, and 9 had an unknown vaccination status. The largest outbreak since 96 was directly the result of an intentionally unvaccinated individual introducing it to his largely unvaccinated community
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On March 13, 2013, an intentionally unvaccinated adolescent aged 17 years returned to New York City from London, United Kingdom, while infectious with measles. This importation led to the largest outbreak of measles in the United States since 1996 (1).
Investigation of suspected cases included patient interviews, medical record reviews, and ascertainment of immunization records. Testing for measles immunoglobulin G (IgG) and immunoglobulin M (IgM) and testing for measles virus RNA by reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) were performed, and measles genotype was determined. Cases were identified in residents of New York City and classified according to the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists clinical case definition (2). Exposed contacts were identified, and control measures were implemented.
A total of 58 cases* were identified, including six generations of measles infection in two neighborhoods of the borough of Brooklyn. All cases were in members of the orthodox Jewish community. No case was identified in a person who had documented measles vaccination at the time of exposure; 12 (21%) of the cases were in infants too young (aged <12 months) for routine immunization with measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine.
Complications included pneumonia in one child; two pregnant women required hospitalization, including one who miscarried.
Notes from the Field: Measles Outbreak Among Members of a Religious Community — Brooklyn, New York, March–June 2013
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So this unvaccinated person caused a miscarriage and 12 babies to get sick. Yay for free choice for him! Too bad for everyone else, huh?
1 unvaccinated person with measles contracted in India led to over 1000 people being exposed. What if they had all been unvaccinated?
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On April 14, 2013, public health officials in North Carolina were notified of suspected measles infections in two unvaccinated members of a family. Measles was confirmed by laboratory testing at the State Laboratory of Public Health on April 16, 2013. Investigators learned that a third unvaccinated member of the household had developed fever and rash 11 days earlier, after returning to the United States from a 3-month visit to India, but measles had not been suspected until household contacts sought evaluation for similar symptoms.
During April and May, direct and indirect transmission from the returning traveler resulted in 22 identified cases of measles (including the two cases first reported), for a total of 23 cases overall. Most cases were among residents of a largely unvaccinated religious community in rural North Carolina.
Investigation of the contacts of these persons led to the identification of approximately 1,000 exposed persons from various settings, including health-care facilities, schools, and community events. Notes from the Field: Measles Outbreak Associated with a Traveler Returning from India — North Carolina, April–May 2013
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So much for these diseases not making a comeback should we stop vaccinating! |
There is so much propaganda there is no way I can convince you that there is a risk with vaccines. You believe the government studies hook, line, and sinker (which do not proof conclusively that vaccines aren't responsible for much that is going on with chronic illnesses). I cannot go on discussing this because you will want to win this argument at all costs, without understanding that empirical studies done thus far are in no way conclusive. In fact, based on these scientific studies there is reason to believe that there
is a connection. I gave you a lot to digest but all you do is come back with the same old same old. I believe you do this because you want science to be right no matter what the opposition says. That's understandable but at the expense of truth is just plain wrong when there is so much at stake. This presents a stalemate; a no win situation, so I'm going to jump ship on this issue.